HI ALL !!! I FINALLY HAVE WIGGLERS ;D !!! I don't know if they'll survive, but I am happy they made it this far. Up until now they'd all either turn white or would be eaten by the mother. This time I was very lucky. Even if the wigglers don't survive, at least I know now that it will be possible to have fry at some point. Here is the story. A couple of days ago when I turned the light on in my 30G community tank, to my great surprise I noticed a flat rock completely covered with eggs! And the dad was guarding them, even against the mother who wanted to eat them. The dad always does that, it's the mom who eats them! I don't know what kind of mom she is! Anyway, this time their breeding tubes were not that large yet and I thought I'll have a couple of more days before they spawn. But to my surprise they spawned sooner than I thought. Knowing that the eggs won't make it with the mom, I removed the rock to my 10G tank that has the same pH and the same temperature as the 30G has. I did a 50% water change in the 10G before I put the rock in there. And I left the eggs like this, with the light turned off and with the airstone positioned under the rock so that they get a good air flow. I also gradually increased the temperature to 80-81F. When I turned the light on today to examine the eggs, most of them were white, but among them I noticed tiny tails wiggling from transparent eggs!!! You have no idea how happy that made me These are the wigglers. There's around 30 of them I think. Once I saw that, I did a 30% water change and put a stocking over the filter's intake tube (since my LFS doesn't have a sponge filter for fry tanks). I hope this will prevent the fry from being sucked in (if they go free-swimming at all). Now, I have a couple of questions, particularly for you Carol if you're reading this, or anyone who has experience with breeding angelfish. (I still haven't read the book on angelfish - didn't have the time.) The eggs became wigglers today - when will they become free-swimmers? When do I start 50% daily water changes? And how to change the water so that the babies don't get hurt? Can I leave the lights on now, or will it hurt them? When do I start feeding them? (I have micro frozen brine shrimp for them - is that OK?) I also don't have a turkey baster to remove dead eggs - where can I buy a turkey baster fast? Will the wigglers die if I don't remove dead eggs? Please help anyone! Thanks up-front.