White cloud breeding


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Apparently this is easy? I am a new comer to breeding my fish. I keep 5 white clouds, one long finned minnow and a gold minnow together and i wish to breed to increase group numbers. So far all my attempts have failed, at the moment i have seperated what i believe to be the males and females and are conditioning them which i have been told is feeding little and often. However i have also been told to do this for 2 weeks, should i ignore this if my females get fatter sooner? I found sexing them pretty difficult too and am not convinced i am entirely correct as none of my females are pretty fat at the moment.
Also when i introduce them to spawn, how many should i place in the tank and how long for?
Do i need a spawning mop of will lots of wispy weed be okay?

Very confused!
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