Which goldfish food would you pick?

yasha

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I was looking at getting my goldfish some small pellets. The goldfish are fantail and maybe 2inch atm.

Would you go with?;
Sho Gold
Omega One
New Life Spectrum
Cobalt

online prices I'm looking at per oz is about;
Sho Gold 1.56
Omega One 1.25
New Life Spectrum 1.70
Cobalt 1.45

I know we have a pet supplies store we go to a lot around here that carries the Cobalt + a few others but mostly cobalt. I can however see if they carries or can order the others for me. I know there sometimes cheaper then ordering online.


Also does the orange and black one look ok? It's belly looks like it comes to a point in the middle a lot more then the other and is bigger. Sorry there in a scratched up 5 gallon atm till I clean my 20 long a little more for them. Just got them last night.
 

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AquaticBrandon

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I have read that it's best to feed goldfish pellets. IMO, I would go with the NLS. I feed my fish NLS and they love it! I don't have experience with Cobalt but I have read really good reviews about it
 
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yasha

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Thank you
All 4 would be sinking pellets 1.4-3mm in size.
Cobalt is what I use with my cory and cichlids tho I normally mix them with other pellets.

(added question at the end to 1st post)
 

Dom90

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From what I can discern, Cobalt contains more fillers than Omega or NLS. Never heard of Sho though.


 

AquaticBrandon

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I do have experience with Omega One also. It's a good brand, I would go with the NLS, Cobalt or Omega One. They are good quality brands. I can't help with the last question, sorry. I don't have much experience with goldfish yet.
 

LiterallyHydro

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I know goldfish should be fed pellets instead of flakes since flakes would be making them gulp in air. I don't think flakes are a problem if you soaked them first though.
 

slayer5590

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I would go with Omega, NLS , or Cobalt. They are all quality food. I can't find much info on Sho gold.
 
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yasha

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Thank you all.
It sounds like most of you think any of the 3 more know name brands are fine. So I'll ask would you mix them or change them now and then to try a variety?


I agree. I've been giving them some soaked flakes atm but I think pellets are less messing/easier to find on the ground. I also have read that as they don't fall apart as easy in the water they are more nutritious. I also find it easier to tell how much I'm feeding with pellets then I do with flakes.
 

LiterallyHydro

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yasha said:
Thank you all.
It sounds like most of you think any of the 3 more know name brands are fine. So I'll ask would you mix them or change them now and then to try a variety?


I agree. I've been giving them some soaked flakes atm but I think pellets are less messing/easier to find on the ground. I also have read that as they don't fall apart as easy in the water they are more nutritious. I also find it easier to tell how much I'm feeding with pellets then I do with flakes.

Exactly. I personally opt to use both soaked flakes and pellets. Although I do not have goldfish, it seems to work just fine for most fish.
 

Dom90

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You could buy two of the brands and alternate feeding of the two. That would add variety to their diet I think.


 
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yasha

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Also a link to the sho if you wanted/wouldn't mind take a look. It's a more off brand then the other sold only in 1lb+
They do have a pic of the ingredients but I can't find them typed out.
 

Dom90

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Yuck! Wheat germ, whole wheat, soy meal, gluten protein... Something I would definitely stay away from. The nutritional value of that brand seems quite low.


 
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yasha

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ok ty. so I'll stay with the 3 well know ones. Cobalt I think will be the easiest for me to get my hands on. There all close in price.
 

Dom90

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Do you have an Amazon account? If so, all three would be fairly easy to get. omega one is sold at Petco/Petsmart.


 

TexasDomer

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I feed mine Omega One because the top 6 ingredients are fish or inverts. A little filler after that, but not as much as most other foods.
 
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yasha

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yea I can use amazon or ebay. Also would guess the store here can order any of them for me but will see after I get back up there. I know the cobalt they sell is a lot cheaper there then online so want to see if the others will be also. Think it is the worst of the 3 but may pick it up if they don't have the other 2 just to get it now vs the few days shipping from online or from the store ordering them for me. I don't want to get them from petco/petsmart as there A LOT more there then asking the other store to special order them or get them myself online. That was the case when I was looking for cory and cichlid food anyway so guessing it will be the same with goldfish food. I know with petco the website prices are not the prices in stores. The store here ups the price a lot more then it says online.


Also if you don't mind any of you willing to take the time to point out bad ingredients vs what you want in there food? Never really pad attention to why a food was good or bad till lately when I fond a dog food site that highlights every ingredient and why you want or don't want it. Now I'm trying to understand more of the make up.
Id say is really right that Omega One is the best as it has so much fish. As with Dog food you want 3 meat to start tho almost everyone even the highest ones only have 2 lol. Then again I was thinking Goldfish were more vegetarian so would a lot of fish in the food be best for them or is that something better in a meat eater like cichlid and not as much in goldfish? I know there's stuff in the others not in the Omega that maybe nice to also have? There for mixing 2 would be better? Also if 2 of the 3 what 2?

Red would be what I believe is bad about the foods is there anything red you don't think is bad or anything in black that you would say is bad to have in goldfish food?
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Omega One


Ingredients:
Whole Salmon, Whole Herring, Whole Shrimp, Wheat flour, Wheat Gluten, Fresh Kelp, Lecithin, Astaxanthin, L-Ascorbyl-2-Phosphate (Source of Vitamin C), Natural and Artificial Colors, Vitamin A Acetate, Vitamin D3 Supplement, Vitamin E Supplement, Vitamin B12 Supplement, Riboflavin, Niacin, Pantothenic Acid, Folic Acid, Biotin, Inositol, Tocopherol (Preservative), Ethoxyquin (Preservative).
Guaranteed Analysis:
Min. Crude Protein….33%
Min. Crude Fat……….8%
Max. Crude Fiber…….2%
Max. Moisture….…. 8.5%
Max. Ash……………...8%
Min. Phosphorus.....(0.5%)
Min. Omega 3 …….... 1%
Min. Omega 6….....(0.5%)
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New Life Spectrum

Ingredients: Whole Antarctic Krill, Whole Fish, Whole Wheat Flour, Ulva Seaweed, Chlorella Algae, Beta Carotene, Spirulina, Garlic, Alfalfa, Scallops, Omega-3 Fish Oil, Spinosum Seaweed, Wakame Seaweed, Vitamin A Acetate, Vitamin D Supplement, Vitamin E Supplement, Vitamin B12 Supplement, Niacin, Folic Acid, Biotin, Thiamine Hydrochloride, Riboflavin Supplement, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride, Calcium Pantothenate, L-Ascorby-2-Polyphosphate (Vitamin C), Choline Chloride, Ethylenediamine Dihydroiodide, Cobalt Sulfate, Ferrous Sulfate, and Manganese Sulfate.
Guaranteed Analysis
Crude Protein 36.0% min
Crude Fat 5.0% min
Crude Fiber 6.0% max
Moisture 10.0% max
Ash 8.0% max
Vitamin A 8000 IU/KG min
Vitamin D 2500 IU/KG min
Vitamin E 200 IU/KG min
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Cobalt

Ingredients
Salmon Fish Meal, Wheat Flour, Dehulled Soybean Meal, Brewers Dried Yeast, Corn Starch, Freeze Dried Plankton, Freeze Dried Krill, Dried Spirulina, Dried Kelp, Fish Oil, Lecithin, Vitamin A Acetate, Vitamin D-3 Supplement, Vitamin B1 Supplement, Vitamin B-12 Supplement, Biotin, Dried Brine Shrimp, Beta-Glucan, Spray Dried Egg, Garlic Powder, Earthworm Powder, L-Ascorbyl-2-Polyphosphate (source of stabilized Vitamin C), Calcium Carbonate, Vitamin E Supplement, D1 Calcium Pantothenate, Niacin, D-Biotin, Riboflavin, Thiamine Mononitrate, Menadione Sodium Bisulfite Complex, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride, Folic Acid, Dried Bacillus subtilis Fermentation Product, Dried Bacillus licheniformis Fermentation Product, Methionine and Natural Coloring.
Guaranteed Analysis
Crude Protein 43.0% min.
Crude Fat 10.0% min.
Crude Fiber 4.0% min.
Phosphorus 1.0%, min.
Moisture 5.0% max.
Microorganisms 1,000,000 CFU/g min.
at time of manufacture
 

LiterallyHydro

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I wouldn't use the Cobalt food, but the choice ingredients in it is pretty interesting. I may have to do some further research on their food..
 

TexasDomer

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Hmm, mine's not goldfish-specific Omega One, so maybe that's why it has more fish/inverts in it? In that case, maybe the NLS would be better.
 

Dom90

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You hit it pretty spot-on, all those ingredients in red are bad, known as "fillers", like you would see "corn gluten meal", "meat and bone meal", etc in dog food. Usually you'll want to see stuff like kelp, spirulina, garlic, etc... Goldfish are herbivores so they need a lot of vegetable and not as much protein. You should try to feed whole cooked vegetable I think, can someone else comment on this?
 
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yasha

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I know raw vegetables like kelp and lettuce is good for them.
Spiruline is really only in the cobalt but cobalt also makes pure spiruline flakes I could just add. NLS has more seaweed also spiruline and garlic and cobalt more krill kelp and spiruline.
Omega one is mostly fish and vitamins.
 

Dom90

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Hmm looks like you'll be going with Cobalt then, I presume..
 
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yasha

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IMO omega has the least wrong with it but maybe also missing a lot of the good. would be nice to mess with there ingredients and take some out of the other two add the fish from the omega to them but unless you make it from scratch you can't do that. lol

one more problem with the cobalt tho is almost everything says Freeze Dried or Dried where they don't with the NLS. and freeze dried isn't the best either.

Anyone confirm that omega is lacking? Cobalt has to much Freeze Dried and fillers?
Thinking that means over all NLS is the best for having what they need and not to much of what they don't?

if I can't get NLS at the supply store tomorrow I'll get the cobalt till the NLS can be ordered by them or shipped to me. ATM I'm feeding them TetraFin goldfish Flakes and really don't want to. Maybe till I can get to the store my tropical cobalt flakes would be better?

Sorry I would just like to learn a lot more about what I'm doing and why. I also want to start off right with these guys as they are so young I may get them to be nice big pretty goldfish. In the past when I had goldfish with my mom we didn't know much more then basic and we always got them as older to adults. Never smaller then about 4". So the little 2" seem more needy and more important to start right. They can also be made healthier in the start making them over all healthier in the end.
 

Dom90

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Lol all three are like 100x better than Tetra for sure. And yea I think freeze dried is bad, too much protein content maybe... So yea you should probably stick with the NLS...


 
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yasha

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Ty I looked at the cobalt tropical flakes I have and wow they don't look very good either. A lot of people like the 3 but maybe its just because of one specific food or the other and all have there ones that there not as good in.

Again thank you so much for helping out.
 

Dom90

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Well, there is no "perfect" food or brand. They all have one flaw or another. The thing is to try to find the food with the least amount of flaws.


 

LeoDiaz

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I really like paradigm brand fish foods. There like crumbles and don't have a huge ingredient list with no extra fillers. For goldfish I would go with the paradigm omnivore fish food formula.
 
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yasha

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While not sacrificing to much beneficial in the process.
Like with the omega one IMO not having the spirulina, garlic, seaweed hurts it. Tho I could easily add them to it but getting spirulina flakes or pellets to mix in and fresh garlic.

Thinking I may try both NLS and Omega as both have wheat but not much and one has more fish and one more vegetation. See what the fish like. I also really want to try some fresh foods on them. I was watching a video of a few picking at flesh kale(I believe) that was in a clip on the wall of the tank. They looked to have fun biting at it and pulling pieces off so maybe mine will to.
 

Dom90

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I think goldfish are herbivores so I would go with more vegetation...


 
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yasha

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Never hear of it or seen it seems hard to find in Google search to. Did find ingredients and your right it looks really nice. What is the price difference tho and where did you find it?

that's was my thinking to and why I was thinking no to the omega hmm.. Maybe I should stick with that thinking and not go with the omage for them goldfish omega looks more like cichlid food to me .

NLS it is and to see what food looks like price and so on.
 

LeoDiaz

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Dom90
yasha is a little more expensive but worth it here is the link were I buy mine
 
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yasha

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Ingredients
: Green Pea Flour, Shrimp Meal, Human Grade Spirulina Powder, Dried Egg Whites, Whole Menhaden Fish Meal, Crude Menhaden Fish Oil, Astaxanthin, Paprika, and Cayenne Pepper.

Nutritional Analysis: 38% Protein, 5% Fat, 10% Starch, 17% Fiber, 9% Sugar, 13% Minerals/Ash, and 4% Moisture.

but at 51 its a lot to pay at once tho that's only 1.06 a oz so over all the cheapest.
 

Dom90

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Hmm had this thought in my head that they were herbivores because they eat plants that are grown in the aquarium setting.


 

LeoDiaz

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yasha said:


Ingredients
: Green Pea Flour, Shrimp Meal, Human Grade Spirulina Powder, Dried Egg Whites, Whole Menhaden Fish Meal, Crude Menhaden Fish Oil, Astaxanthin, Paprika, and Cayenne Pepper.

Nutritional Analysis: 38% Protein, 5% Fat, 10% Starch, 17% Fiber, 9% Sugar, 13% Minerals/Ash, and 4% Moisture.

but at 51 its a lot to pay at once tho that's only 1.06 a oz so over all the cheapest.
Check my last post out cheaper there.
 
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yasha

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if you have that site sort by fish type it also goes herbivore.
16 oz is $27 so $1.69 a oz (making your site a little more but less at one time)tho IDK if that's with shipping guessing both this site and one I fond is price before shipping.
 

Dom90

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1 lb of food will last a very long time, I'm guessing a year...


 
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yasha

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The price is before shipping right? I may want to try it. Also do like that you can get a lower amount on your site as you don't have to come up with as much at once. And I know someone has used the site with no problems before. It also is always cheaper to buy in bulk and that's the price difference.
 

LeoDiaz

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yasha said:
if you have that site sort by fish type it also goes herbivore.
16 oz is $27 so $1.69 a oz (making your site a little more but less at one time)tho IDK if that's with shipping guessing both this site and one I fond is price before shipping.
You need the omnivore formula I use the herbivore for my mbunas. 1 pound last quite some time.
Edit: yes before shipping.
 
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yasha

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I always was thinking they were herbivores but your right (guessing you already know that) there omnivores interesting that that site sorts them as herbivores. maybe there just more on the herbivore site of the omnivore group so they don't need as much meat as most other omnivore? Or maybe I have just been really wrong and that site also recommended the wrong food type.Thank you for pointing that out for me.


I missed your post at 1st with the info on them being omnivores sorry. Missed the . my bad
 

LeoDiaz

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yasha said:
I always was thinking they were herbivores but your right (guessing you already know that) there omnivores interesting that that site sorts them as herbivores. maybe there just more on the herbivore site of the omnivore group so they don't need as much meat as most other omnivore? Or maybe I have just been really wrong and that site also recommended the wrong food type.Thank you for pointing that out for me.


I missed your post at 1st with the info on them being omnivores sorry. Missed the . my bad
IMO goldfish are right on omnivores cause in the wild they eat everything they find while swimming plants, bug, etc.lol.
 
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yasha

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So there more of a bug/worm and plant eater not really a fish eater tho right? Do they eat fish in the wild and if I were to put a guppy with a full sized fancy goldfish would it hunt and eat the guppy or just eat it if its in its face? I guess I should have new as I know they eat worms Idk why I wasn't thinking of that fact.

You guys are really good with the info and help.
 
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