Where The Heck Do I Go From Here?

CatfishGuy
  • #1
I just want some ideas on where to go from my current standing with my aquariums, here's the info on all of them:
1 gallon:
Baby female betta
1 gallon:
12 guppy fry, not even a week old but thriving! (At least that's what it looks like)
2.5 gallon:
male betta, right now my mom dictates what I can do with my aquariums and she said 2.5 gallons is perfect for a betta even though ive told her many times that he at least needs a 5 gallon
2.5 gallon:
My last surviving molly fry, he/she is doing really well!
10 gallon:
3 male guppies, 1 platinum molly, and 1 paradise fish. They actually get along pretty well! It's way too overstocked but again, my mom says we can put way more fish in
20 gallon long:
1 paradise fish, 1 male guppy, 1 female guppy, 4 bristlenose plecos, 3 longfin zebra danios (even though one's a cheetah that got mixed up in the shipping), and a mystery snail
The tank is way too crowded and the danios need at least 3 more, I already know that but my actions are limited :/
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I feed all of them (except for the guppy fry) freeze-dried bloodworms and flakes. I feed the plecos shrimp pellets. I feed the guppy fry food that is meant for fry, and sometimes I feed them maybe 2 crushed up bloodworms
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My future plan is to get a green terror cichlid alone in the 20 long, but don't worry, I'll put it into a 55 that I already have space for. I'm going to buy the green terror when I know for certain my 55 is ready to start up, I have enough filter media in my 20 gallon filter to put into the 55 gallon filter for an instant cycle.

I'm planning on rehoming almost all of the fish in my 20 long and my 10, and if everything goes according to plan, I'll have a green terror chillin in a 55 with an empty 10 and 20 gallon.

Oh and I am hopefully going to be setting up a 10 gallon for a male betta (or 3 females) and I don't know if I should get:
1 baby male to grow out
3 baby females to grow out
1 adult/juvenile male, I'll know exactly what it looks like
3 adult/juvenile females, I'll know exactly what they look like.
I know babies can be very risky,mostly because they're so small, but I'm willing to give it a go and see if I can successfully keep em.
I also know the babies are almost certainly always going to be veiltails, and in proper care, veiltails cam live wayy longer than 5 years.
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Sorry if this was an absolute mess btw, I'm just putting out as much info because I know it will aid you in giving me ideas on things I should/shouldn't do. Thank you in advance!
 
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RainBetta
  • #2
For you 10G, I wouldn't have a female betta sorority. The recommended tank size is 20G or more, and the minimum number of girls is really 6 bettas. If you want, you could do 6 female bettas in the 20 gallon. I always love it when people put one betta in a 10G. Most people out there always want as many fish as possible, but it seems super nice and rewarding when you give a betta a larger tank than most bettas get.

I would never risk it with a baby betta, especially if it's from Petco or Petsmart. Those places don't really take care of the bettas at all, so your only more likely to lose your betta if you buy a baby. I've never really supported buying live animals from the big chains because, from my experience, the fish almost always have diseases as they come from huge breeder farms that don't care about the fish's health. I think that you should just buy an adult betta. TBH every baby I've bought there has live shorter than all my adult bettas.

I'm not sure about the green terror, as I've never had chiclids, but I honestly wouldn't just put a single fish in that 55, unless you have your heart set in that one particular fish. If I were you, that would be the perfect opportunity to have the coolest community tank ever, or you could do a bunch of African Chiclids.

I think that you should keep the guppies, and get one or two more females. Guppy fry are good live food...
 
CatfishGuy
  • Thread Starter
  • #3
For you 10G, I wouldn't have a female betta sorority. The recommended tank size is 20G or more, and the minimum number of girls is really 6 bettas. If you want, you could do 6 female bettas in the 20 gallon. I always love it when people put one betta in a 10G. Most people out there always want as many fish as possible, but it seems super nice and rewarding when you give a betta a larger tank than most bettas get.

I would never risk it with a baby betta, especially if it's from Petco or Petsmart. Those places don't really take care of the bettas at all, so your only more likely to lose your betta if you buy a baby. I've never really supported buying live animals from the big chains because, from my experience, the fish almost always have diseases as they come from huge breeder farms that don't care about the fish's health. I think that you should just buy an adult betta. TBH every baby I've bought there has live shorter than all my adult bettas.

I'm not sure about the green terror, as I've never had chiclids, but I honestly wouldn't just put a single fish in that 55, unless you have your heart set in that one particular fish. If I were you, that would be the perfect opportunity to have the coolest community tank ever, or you could do a bunch of African Chiclids.

I think that you should keep the guppies, and get one or two more females. Guppy fry are good live food...
I really have my heart set on that green terror right now, but plans change, so you never know what I'll decide on keeping in that 55!

As for the betta, what type of betta do you recommend? I'm thinking of spending $100 total for everything. Here's what it'll be spent on:
-Top fin 10 gallon starter kit, $30
-I'll look for plants but if my budget allows I'll be spending around $30
-The betta himself, $30 is the most I'm willing to spend
-As for driftwood/rocks I'm willing to spend enough to make the tank look good, and according to the final price I set, that's $10.

Sorry for the load of info,I just really want more ideas and answers to any questions I might have

Oh shoot! I forgot to add that I'll also be spending around $10 for substrate, so that'll be around $110 if I don't think of anything else
 
kayla.s
  • #4
I'm not 100% sure as I've never kept one, but I have read multiple sources saying you need a tank size more around the 100 gallon mark...
 
CatfishGuy
  • Thread Starter
  • #5
I'm not 100% sure as I've never kept one, but I have read multiple sources saying you need a tank size more around the 100 gallon mark...
I think you've got the wrong fish, green terror cichlids grow to 8 inches on average and 10 inches is very rare for them. I have never kept one either, but I'm trying to do my research on this fish so I don't kill it
 
RainBetta
  • #6
I love elephant ear, koi, white opal, halfmoon, and butterfly. Sometimes you can find a super cool crowntail. TBH, I always just choose the bettas with the coolest colors, or I put I finger in front of the cup and choose the one that follows my finger the most.
 
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kayla.s
  • #7
Nope, same one. I'll see if I can find some links...

Looks like a 55 is usually recommend as more of a growing out tank size

Green terror Aequidens rivulatus

But as I said, I haven't kept one myself.
 
Jellibeen
  • #8
I’m a little confused. You said you were going to rehome some of your fish so you’d have an empty ten and twenty, then you say you are going to buy a new ten.

Maybe you could move the betta you already have up to the ten.
 
CatfishGuy
  • Thread Starter
  • #9
I’m a little confused. You said you were going to rehome some of your fish so you’d have an empty ten and twenty, then you say you are going to buy a new ten.

Maybe you could move the betta you already have up to the ten.
My mom says the 10 gallon is her tank and I only do maintenance and all. I'm sure she's gonna put some guppies in if I successfully rehome the current fish.

Even though I'm kinda eh because I want a new betta, I guess the new tank will be for my betta

If she lets me choose the stocking for the old 10 should I put a different male?

(Just in case I confused you again because I ramble too much, once I have my older betta in my new 10, should I get a new betta for the old 10 if I can?)

Nope, same one. I'll see if I can find some links...

Looks like a 55 is usually recommend as more of a growing out tank size

But as I said, I haven't kept one myself.
Once I got to the monsterfishkeepers thread I lost it like the first few comments were about the actual size bur then two people started using their best grammar in some little argument about who's the best fish keeper and all that

Aside from those two its really a bummer that I can't get a green terror, and in all honesty it made me feel bad when the people in that thread talked about them as being "wet pets" and living their life all confined :/

I can't get any tanks over 55 gallons for now (not because that's the biggest tank at my lfs, those guys have tanks upwards of 400 gallons available). It's because of budget and room in my house. I really want a fish that'll be like some type of bass and almost jump out of the water for food, and cichlids are the one fish I'm looking at. Now I see I can only have dwarf cichlids or an african cichlid tank (with the appropriate species for that size). But I guess I'm just gonna have to live with my paradise who LEAPS out of the water for food

Do you recommend any fish for a 55? They don't necessarily have to be cichlids, but it would be preferable to see a fish (or a group of them) with lots of personality
 
NavyChief20
  • #10
Once I got to the monsterfishkeepers thread I lost it like the first few comments were about the actual size bur then two people started using their best grammar in some little argument about who's the best fish keeper and all that

Aside from those two its really a bummer that I can't get a green terror, and in all honesty it made me feel bad when the people in that thread talked about them as being "wet pets" and living their life all confined :/

I can't get any tanks over 55 gallons for now (not because that's the biggest tank at my lfs, those guys have tanks upwards of 400 gallons available). It's because of budget and room in my house. I really want a fish that'll be like some type of bass and almost jump out of the water for food, and cichlids are the one fish I'm looking at. Now I see I can only have dwarf cichlids or an african cichlid tank (with the appropriate species for that size). But I guess I'm just gonna have to live with my paradise who LEAPS out of the water for food

Do you recommend any fish for a 55? They don't necessarily have to be cichlids, but it would be preferable to see a fish (or a group of them) with lots of personality
Convict cichlids
 
CatfishGuy
  • Thread Starter
  • #11
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TexasDomer
  • #12
I wouldn't get convicts - they'll breed like rabbits and overrun you. Many LFS won't take the fry because they're too common. And they can be nasty towards other fish, so you wouldn't be able to keep other fish with them.
 
Jellibeen
  • #13
Maybe you can focus a little more on what you have. If your mom wants a tank with guppies, instead of rehoming the guppies you have, she can keep them. Getting new fish is exciting, and it’s important to take care of the ones you have.

Have you looked at puffers? I think you could keep some in your 20 once you have rehomed or moved the current fish. They have a lot of personality. They’re pretty nippy so you have to be careful about who you house them with.
 

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