What's wrong with my fish, he floats doesn’t swim?

So for...5 days now my male has not been able to swim correctly. He just floats around and lays sideways, or vertically. Thinking it is a swim bladder issue I gave him a 15 minute Epsom salt soak and it did not help at all. I have other fish and everyone is perfectly fine. I tried feeding him peas but due to him not being able to control where he goes, he can't eat. I beginning to think I possibly broke his back when transferring him to a smaller tank on Saturday while I redid their 20 long gallon tank. Thanks for any help

 

You are probably right it looks like a swim bladder issue... perhaps increase the temperature of your tank a degree a day so its in the high 70s? what is the temperature of your tank?

 

It stays room temperature so its currently at 74 to 76. The temp of the hospital tank we put at 80 (tank with the salt dips).

 

If he gets better, I would keep him with a heater, they like warmer temperatures, high 70s is ideal....

 

If he gets better, I would keep him with a heater, they like warmer temperatures, high 70s is ideal....

Okay I will, at least my cories will stop breeding lol

 

If he gets better, I would keep him with a heater, they like warmer temperatures, high 70s is ideal....

Do you keep DG's on these temps yourself if I may ask?

This fish is dying and suffering. Please euthanise OP. Sorry.

 

No, I have pearl gouramis....

 

Do you keep DG's on these temps yourself if I may ask?

This fish is dying and suffering. Please euthanise OP. Sorry.

I agree, if swim bladder develops this much its usually to late to save them.

 

No, I have pearl gouramis....

DG's can better be kept cooler cause they're temp-sensitive. Higher temps bring them in matingmood (with the behaviour according).. Higher temps when diseased in most cases is a nono.

In fact there isn't such a thing of swimbladder disease to me. To me it is a condition that can have several issues / diseases causing it.

Unbalance in the water can also have more causes as well. Brains / nerves / eyesight / etc etc.....

As said this fish can't be helped.

 

Do you keep DG's on these temps yourself if I may ask?

This fish is dying and suffering. Please euthanise OP. Sorry.

Yes, that is our water room temp. But if he is dying, wouldn't my female be a a well?

 

Yes, that is our water room temp. But if he is dying, wouldn't my female be a a well?

Swim bladder isn't a disease its a symptom. It may be that whatever caused the male's swim bladder issue could have been due to an injury not a disease.

 

Swim bladder isn't a disease its a symptom. It may be that whatever caused the male's swim bladder issue could have been due to an injury not a disease.

So possibly when I transferred him to a 10 gallon and back to the 20 gallon when I redid their tank with substrate? Could it be we revived him from sudden dwarf gourami disease? One of my males had the disease and passed it onto him or seemed to and we able to cure him, that was back in June though....

 

So possibly when I transferred him to a 10 gallon and back to the 20 gallon when I redid their tank with substrate? Could it be we revived him from sudden dwarf gourami disease? One of my males had the disease and passed it onto him or seemed to and we able to cure him, that was back in June though....

It doesn't seem like Dwarf gourami disease but im not very knowledgeable on that disease. Hopefully someone else can help more.

 

So possibly when I transferred him to a 10 gallon and back to the 20 gallon when I redid their tank with substrate? Could it be we revived him from sudden dwarf gourami disease? One of my males had the disease and passed it onto him or seemed to and we able to cure him, that was back in June though....

I’m wondering if the change in water chemistry when you moved him was too much for him and put him into shock, perhaps it’s organ failure. I wouldn’t change the water or change tanks on him anymore and see if he makes it but it doesn’t look good.

 

I’m wondering if the change in water chemistry when you moved him was too much for him and put him into shock, perhaps it’s organ failure. I wouldn’t change the water or change tanks on him anymore and see if he makes it but it doesn’t look good.

The 10 gallon was all water from the 20 gallon (thats when started acting strange) its been like this for a little over a week with staying the same. We leaning towards euthanasia but we obviously would like to cure him if that's an option

It doesn't seem like Dwarf gourami disease but im not very knowledgeable on that disease. Hopefully someone else can help more.

He had it a few months ago but we cured it but this is new to me. Ive never seen a fish act like this with his body looking the way is does. Thanks for your help

 

The 10 gallon was all water from the 20 gallon (thats when started acting strange) its been like this for a little over a week with staying the same. We leaning towards euthanasia but we obviously would like to cure him if that's an option

It may be of advantage for the sake of the fish to euthanize. There is no reason for letting him suffer any further. There is no way as an outsider to really figure out the cause. We can all guess, but it does not really help the little guy at this point.

 

It may be of advantage for the sake of the fish to euthanize. There is no reason for letting him suffer any further. There is no way as an outsider to really figure out the cause. We can all guess, but it does not really help the little guy at this point.

What is your opinion on the most humane way. Some say to use clove oil...? They say its supposed to make fish sleep then you add more oil and it make it pass

 

I am not the person to ask as I never used clove oil. I am sure other members in this community have a recipe that will peacefully euthanize your fish.

 

He had it a few months ago but we cured it but this is new to me. Ive never seen a fish act like this with his body looking the way is does. Thanks for your help

It isn't Dwarf gourami disease then if you cured it because its an incurable disease.

 

It isn't Dwarf gourami disease then if you cured it because its an incurable disease.

I read that it is possible to cure it if a different fish had it first or something. I dont remember exactly where I found it at

 

If you type Euthanize into a search and search in threads, you will get the info.
I found following: Put at least 10 drops per quart (40 drops per gallon) clove oil to HOT water and whisk or mix well. Mixture should be a little cloudy when emulsified. When mixture cools to tank temp, add the fish. Watch to see no breathing occurs for at least 30 minutes.