What type are my betta splendens females?

I was wondering if there was a more technical way than 'pale pink', or 'darkish purple/brown' to describe the colours of my 3 females. What would htey call them in shows, for example (aside from 'not show-worthy', LOL)?

Here they are.

 

Pink butterfly (Butterfly in that name means the fins are a different color than body)

The purplish/red/whatever color one can just be called red. I know it isn't JUST red, but it would more than likely be shown as a red.

The other one would be considered yellow, I believe.
A nice shade of yellow, I might add. It is hard for us to find yellows that are not the washed out hay yellow overhere.

 

Wow, thanks, Ross.

So:
My 'dark pink' is a yellow,
My 'pale pink' is a pink butterly (and suddenly I understand Carol's handle).
and my 'dark purple' is a red.

Cool, I can finally use the proper names for their colorations. Thanks!

 

Sounds about right.

That one I labeled as yellow is actually pink? Are my eyes that bad or is the fins yellow and body pink?

Oh and Carol's handle, she actually loves butterflies.

 

hmmm maybe my eyes are wrong but that last photo of the female doesn't look yellow to me, it looks like a copper colored betta.
they are all beautiful btw....

~ kate

 

Oh, she loves the really butterflies, not the bettas?

Well am terrible with colours (says my husband). Whenever I describe one to him and he sees the real thing, he just looks at me like: DOH! So don't quote me on this, but she's kind of this colour (ignore the actual meaning of the smiley, it's just that it's the closest one in colour): , or maybe more like this: :. I went through all the smileys, and she's the most like the angry one. Kind of like orangey-pink if there's such a thing.

Her fins are the same colour, but a little transparent (which worries me, btw, but that's another thread). So maybe you see the yellowish light through them?

Sounds about right.

That one I labeled as yellow is actually pink? Are my eyes that bad or is the fins yellow and body pink?

Oh and Carol's handle, she actually loves butterflies.

Oh, and the purple one (which I called metallic) is actually red and blue. She has alternating red-blue scales which is impossible to make out with my camera. Is there a name for that do you think?

Sorry to bother you with this, but I find naming conventions fascinating! (I did zoology partly because I LOVE taxonomy!)

Sounds about right.

That one I labeled as yellow is actually pink? Are my eyes that bad or is the fins yellow and body pink?

Oh and Carol's handle, she actually loves butterflies.

Copper as in: ? (look at the colour of the smiley, not the meaning, LOL). Because that's more or less her colour. She's slightly more orangey/brown than that.

Sounds about right.

That one I labeled as yellow is actually pink? Are my eyes that bad or is the fins yellow and body pink?

Oh and Carol's handle, she actually loves butterflies.

 

I'd say Pink Butterfly, Red and Copper on them.

 

OK, in the case of butterfly, how do you state the colour of the fins? Do you say pink/blue-red, or blue-red/pink.

Copper sounds closer I think.

 

actually, i'm wrong.. according to the IBC, she wouldn't be a butterfly. im

 

Oh really? Could you send me the link please? Am just on their homepage but not finding the types immediately.

 

They're on this page: under 'standards' but you have to be an IBC member to d/l them. I'm just remembering what we learned when we watched the seminar on judging guidelines at the betta show.

 

This is a nice link too, although it doesn't answer my question as to what my 'butterfly' is: Types of Bettas, by colour, tailss, patterns and genetics.. Am continuing to look. Fascinating stuff.

Apparently, to be a true butterfly, you have to have only 2 solid colors.

Oh, and all my females have double rays. Am reading here () that it means they're delta or super delta.

This surprises me. I thought deltas/superdeltas were to do with the angle of the fan-shape they could reach with their fully extended tail.

 

As far as I know, delta and super delta does refer solely to the degrees the tail fin is when fully extended & doesn't have to do with the rays.

 

That's what I'd always read. Must be a mistake by the author.

Oh, check this out about butterflies (bold formatting is my own): (, Ethan Wheeler, Information on Betta Splendens)

The Butterfly ... fins, must display a banded pattern. Emphasis is placed on the contrast and crispness of the band, not the colouring of the body and fins.

The band should be crisp - not a lightening of opposing fin colour (meaning a Yellow with a lighter Yellow outer band is not a Butterfly, but a Yellow with a clear band is a Butterfly).


The bands should scribe an even oval around the fish. There are two forms the banding may take: A two band fin pattern, where the fins are divided equally between the number of bands. the multiple band pattern is sometimes difficult to identify since two of the bands, though distinct, may be subtle but different shades of the same colour. In this case, shining a flashlight from behind the fins may aid in detecting this trait but lack of definition between bands is considered a fault.
The Butterfly body and the colour in the first fin band may be either a single colour, Bicolored, Marbled or Multicoloured.

The general basis of faults of the Butterfly Bettas:
The principles, which determine the arrangement of the fault charts found in this portion of the text, are:
1) For two band fins, the bands should occupy 1/2 the fin area on all fins.
2) For multiple band fins, the bands should occupy 1/(number of bands) of the fin area on all fins.
3) The dividing line between fin bands should be straight and scribe an oval around the Betta.
4) The degree to which a second colour intrudes, lack of crisp definition, also affects the degree of severity of the fault.

So that would make her totally not a butterfly, as she has no bands.

As far as I know, delta and super delta does refer solely to the degrees the tail fin is when fully extended & doesn't have to do with the rays.

OK, so I think my pink female is a cambodian. Here's how they're described:
'flesh colored bodies and colored fin' (, Colors and tail types)

I've also seen the colour of a betta they called copper, and it's not the same as my 'brown' female ().

So my question is: what colour would my 'brown' female officially be called?

Also, is there a name for that lovely black lining that 'frames' their tail?

And, is there a name for hte fact that they are all double-rayed?

 

yea, our feathered betta Teddy Bear is our only butterfly.

So that would make her totally not a butterfly, as she has no bands.

would your 'brown' be mustard? i'm really not sure if her color is an IBC defined & currently accepted color or not.

i'm not sure on the lining either.. or if that is a defined pattern.

and I think double-rayed are just called double-ray.

 

lol.

The brown/pink/chameleon betta may be mustard or copper, I can't say.

I would get so frustrated with taxonomy. I would follow the IBC's naming system as most accepted and probably closest to correct.

 

The yellow/copper one - if there is black edging on tail and scales, I think that may be "Pineapple"....?

 

OK, thanks for that, Ross. I'll check the IBC again.

I think 'real-life' copper is close to her actual colour, but I think the 'official' copper is paler, pratically yellow/very light brown.

I'll check mustard again, thanks for the suggestion.

lol.

The brown/pink/chameleon betta may be mustard or copper, I can't say.

I would get so frustrated with taxonomy. I would follow the IBC's naming system as most accepted and probably closest to correct.

Oh that sounds really pretty. But they have this on the edge of their tail, not on the scales.

The yellow/copper one - if there is black edging on tail and scales, I think that may be "Pineapple"....?

Here's something really funny from Betty Splendens:
"Armadillo: This is my own name for a group of fish with extremely heavy metallic iridescence on their bodies and completely covering their faces and heads, . They are considered Metallic Dark Bodied or AOC." )

So that means my metalic one is an armadillo, LOL.