What Tetras Can Be Compatible With Bettas?

DylanM
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Hey, I recently realized I have a spare heater and filter that will work nicely on a 10 gallon tank (aqueon quiet flow 20 & 50 watt preset 77 degrees heater). I am interested in setting up a new 10 gallon planted betta tank, and I would like to know what tetras can be compatible with bettas, and are able for 5 or more to fit in a 10 gallon tank with a betta. I am well versed in betta care, so I understand that some of them simply can't be with other fish. I am thinking of testing out whether the betta is compatible with a few amano shrimp, and if he ignores them for a month or two, I will transfer them to my 20 gallon community tank and add the tetras. The tank will be heavily planted with low-light low maintenance plants, such as anubias, swords, and anarchis. I am thinking of an interesting rock for the tank's centerpiece, with the plants growing on, and around it. Does anyone know what tetras can be okay in a 10 gallon planted tank with a betta?

By the way, my plan is black sand for the substrate, and the cheapest 6500k led light that I can find that will fit on a 10 gallon.
 

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goplecos
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If the Betta is peaceful 8 CPDs would work, or 6-8 Endlers would work
 

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aquatickeeper
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I WOULD NOT keep any tetras with bettas especially in a 10 gallon tank. Personally I would only do snails and/or shrimp only.
 
DylanM
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  • #4
If the Betta is peaceful 8 CPDs would work, or 6-8 Endlers would work
In a 10 gallon 8 Celestial Pearls? That seems a bit much, no? Anyways, I actually wanted CPDs on my 20 gallon community, but couldn't find any nearby so I went with zebras instead. If I can find them I'd probably choose those over any tetras, but I've had no luck so far. I'm not the biggest fan of endless either, but thanks for the suggestion.
 
aquatickeeper
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I forgot to add that I wouldn't keep any other fish with a betta in a 10 gallon. Not just tetras.
 
DylanM
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  • #6
I WOULD NOT keep any tetras with bettas especially in a 10 gallon tank. Personally I would only do snails and/or shrimp only.
I've done neons in the past... they did well with the betta for about a year in a 10 gallon until the tank seemed to die all of a sudden. Most of the fish died within a few weeks, and the only thing left after was a mystery snail. I'd really like a chance to keep them again.
 

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DylanM
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  • #7
I forgot to add that I wouldn't keep any other fish with a betta in a 10 gallon. Not just tetras.
All bettas have individual personalities, you have to remember that fish are living, thinking things too with individuality. The one I happened to have was pretty chill with anything I put in the tank. Never hurt a single tetra or snail.
 
goplecos
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In a 10 gallon 8 Celestial Pearls? That seems a bit much, no? Anyways, I actually wanted CPDs on my 20 gallon community, but couldn't find any nearby so I went with zebras instead. If I can find them I'd probably choose those over any tetras, but I've had no luck so far. I'm not the biggest fan of endless either, but thanks for the suggestion.

If you want to keep any fish with betas than a small fast moving fish is a must. Unfortunately almost all small, fast Tetras need a 20+ tank.
 
aquatickeeper
  • #9
All bettas have individual personalities, you have to remember that fish are living, thinking things too with individuality. The one I happened to have was pretty chill with anything I put in the tank. Never hurt a single tetra or snail.
Bettas can be unpredicatable. A betta can seem fine towards it's tank mates the other day and then be aggressive towards them the other day. You can probably get away with just shrimp or snails.
 
goplecos
  • #10
I forgot to add that I wouldn't keep any other fish with a betta in a 10 gallon. Not just tetras.

Every Betta is different. As long as the OP can move the fish over to the 20 if there is a problem then there shouldn't be an issue. I have had good luck, and bad luck keeping Bettas with other fish.
 

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DylanM
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  • #11
If you want to keep any fish with betas than a small fast moving fish is a must. Unfortunately almost all small, fast Tetras need a 20+ tank.
Emphasis on almost. Neon tetras are okay with calmer bettas, and they can be kept in 10 gallon tanks. I'd really appreciate it if someone could give some tetra suggestions, although I am considering CPDs if I can find any nearby.
 
goplecos
  • #12
Emphasis on almost. Neon tetras are okay with calmer bettas, and they can be kept in 10 gallon tanks. I'd really appreciate it if someone could give some tetra suggestions, although I am considering CPDs if I can find any nearby.

Neons need a 20 long, 30 is better.
 
DylanM
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  • #13
Bettas can be unpredicatable. A betta can seem fine towards it's tank mates the other day and then be aggressive towards them the other day. You can probably get away with just shrimp or snails.
Usually with bettas they aren't picky on types of tank mates, that's why I'm going to see if he is okay with ANY with an amano shrimp trial before I add in any actual fish. If he is okay for a few months I will then try to add the tetras. I could always move the Betta to a spare 3 gallon I have lying around.
 
DylanM
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  • #14
Neons need a 20 long, 30 is better.
Lol, fishlore itself disagrees with you XD. Anyways, through my own experience and a quick look through a few trusted fish care websites and a few forums I have come to the conclusion that 10 is the minimum. Does anyone else disagree?
 

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aquatickeeper
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Lol, fishlore itself disagrees with you XD. Anyways, through my own experience and a quick look through a few trusted fish care websites and a few forums I have come to the conclusion that 10 is the minimum. Does anyone else disagree?
I disagree. First, fishlore fish profiles are inaccurate and outdated. Neons are schooling fish which need a 6+ minimum. Plus, they're really active. I believe that they really need a minimum of 20 gallons. 20 high would work though.
 
AllieSten
  • #16
I wouldn't keep any tetras in a 10 gallon. It isn't enough room for them. Tetras can be nippy if they are stressed.

So it wouldn't necessarily be the betta that gets aggressive, it could be the tetras.
 
aquatickeeper
  • #17
Though, some tetras can work in a 10 gallon. Like ember tetras.
 
DylanM
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I disagree. First, fishlore fish profiles are inaccurate and outdated. Neons are schooling fish which need a 6+ minimum. Plus, they're really active. I believe that they really need a minimum of 20 gallons. 20 high would work though.

Some websites say 5 gallon is minimum, I would have to disagree with that. I've heard 15 a few times, but this is the first time I've ever heard 20 is the minimum for any amount of neon tetras.
 

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AllieSten
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Paracheirodon innesI – Neon Tetra (Hyphessobrycon innesi, Cheirodon innesi)

Also neon tetras do like their water closer to 75 whereas bettas need to be around 80. Technically their temps do overlap, but you want to keep your fish at the middle range of their temp requirements. Not at the highest or lowest values. Another thing to consider.
 
DylanM
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  • #20
Though, some tetras can work in a 10 gallon. Like ember tetras.
Lol, I have my heart set on these now. I want to get a koi colored marble betta for the tank, and adding a bunch of these would make it look like I had a bunch of tiny fancy goldfish with 1 big koi! XD Thank you so much for the suggestion!
 
DylanM
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  • #21
Paracheirodon innesI – Neon Tetra (Hyphessobrycon innesi, Cheirodon innesi)

Also neon tetras do like their water closer to 75 whereas bettas need to be around 80. Technically their temps do overlap, but you want to keep your fish at the middle range of their temp requirements. Not at the highest or lowest values. Another thing to consider.
I got so caught up in this discussion about neon tetras in 10 gallon tanks that I forgot that I didn't even want to get neons. XD Thanks, I actually use this website quite a bit, and I agree that they usually have accurate information on the different fish they have.
 
aquatickeeper
  • #22
First, I wouldn't use liveaquaria as a source. They are trying to sell you fish. Some reliable sites are seriously fish, fishbase, and planetcatfish. But keep in mind not all sources are 100% correct.
Lol, I have my heart set on these now. I want to get a koi colored marble betta for the tank, and adding a bunch of these would make it look like I had a bunch of tiny fancy goldfish with 1 big koi! XD Thank you so much for the suggestion!
But, I wouldn't keep those with a betta.
 

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DylanM
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  • #23
First, I wouldn't use liveaquaria as a source. They are trying to sell you fish. Some reliable sites are seriously fish, fishbase, and planetcatfish. But keep in mind not all sources are 100% correct.

But, I wouldn't keep those with a betta.
Okay, well they are known to be of the least aggressive tetras. So if I find that the betta isn't aggressive to the shrimp, which are a similar size (about 1 inch long), then I will definitely be adding these to the tank.
 
Anders247
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I WOULD NOT keep any tetras with bettas especially in a 10 gallon tank. Personally I would only do snails and/or shrimp only.
I agree.
 
DylanM
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Actually, it's a 100 watt aqueon heater, I remember replacing it with a pro on the 20 because I accidentally left it on for a while while it was not submerged, so I wasn't sure whether to trust it. I already tried it and it works in keeping a stable 78 degrees in a mason jar, any way to know whether it is leaking or not?
 

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