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Well I’m wanting a soil that I can put a small layer of sand over. Based off the look Flourite wouldn’t really work?...DutchAquarium said:Definetly stay away from miracle grow and potting soil. You can use it, but it is very messy and you will never have a clear aquarium again. if you want a high tech planted soil, go with amazonia which is the best out their but also the most expensive. Flourite is good and is much cheaper. if this is your first time, go with flourite.
Thank you for all the information!!Jocelyn Adelman said:Soil and flourite won’t work.
Miracle grow organic can be capped with sand, but it really is a pain... esp if you want to move around plants/replace dying plants, etc... each disturbance makes a mess. Some also mineralize their soil, tends to be less messy but takes awhile to get set up.
Aquasoils such as Ada Amazonia, tropica aquarium soil, fluval stratum, etc will do a bit better for you then a dirtied tank, but be aware that they lower the kH/ph so you need to keep that in mind (miracle grow can do this as well)
Other choices for substrates (high cec) would be eco complete, flourite, turface, safety sorb.
Eco complete and flourite have the least impact on kH/ph
When redoing my tank I plan to remove all the fish into a tub that I drain the water into after turning off all my equipment, then removing plants, decor, substrate, and putting in the new substrate soil, sand, add plants, fill tank with water, turn on equipment, acclimate fish, and be on my way.endlercollector said:I use Miracle Grow organic potting soil (sold under the name Nature's Care) and other random brands. They've all been fine. I just put down a layer of it, cover with an inch or two of glass pebbles, and slowly add water. You can also top it with sand. The main thing is to be gentle. There will be some soil that floats to the top as well as perlite, but I just scoop it out with a net. Depending on the brand, it may look more like tea at first, but regular water changes will clear it up. I like it because it's cheap, and the plants love it. If I feel the need to redo the tank (which I'm always doing), I just toss the soil into the garden, rinse the pebbles and, after they dry, spray them with some 70 rubbing alcohol.
I've done this, too, without any problems, so long as your filter media doesn't dry out, which likely won't happen, and the water in the bucket doesn't get too hot or cold. The fish should be fine unless they're very delicate. Put the plants in the bucket with them and cover it, in case they get jumpy.mdm2223 said:When redoing my tank I plan to remove all the fish into a tub that I drain the water into after turning off all my equipment, then removing plants, decor, substrate, and putting in the new substrate soil, sand, add plants, fill tank with water, turn on equipment, acclimate fish, and be on my way.
Do you see anything wrong with this?
I have a huge concern of anything happening to my cycle/beneficial bacteria!
Also will anything happen with the fish going into shock over the temp of the tank??? (I plan to try to match the water temp as close as possible then let the heater run for an hour or so to get it close to how it was.)
Also will my tank need to have serval water changes after or will it settle on it’s own?
Not sure about breeding killifish but a dirty tank isn’t true dirt bottom. The “dirt” is covered with sand or gravel.wobbegong said:I wonder if having a dirt bottom tank would be better for breeding killifish, both annual and non annual.
After watching a video last night, I just tried my first soil tank last night, using Miracle Grow, and capping it with a little black sand, then gravel. I think the "be gentle" part is key, and why I'd doing a test setup in a 10 gallon first I filled it all the way once and then did a big drain, and filled it halfway to see how dirty the water still was--answer, pretty murky. My mistake was that I added the water to the soil when it was just capped with a thin layer of sand (I thought I bought enough, but no). The gravel seems to be helping, but I need to do a few more water changes, probably. Did you do those plants in or not?endlercollector said:I use Miracle Grow organic potting soil (sold under the name Nature's Care) and other random brands. They've all been fine. I just put down a layer of it, cover with an inch or two of glass pebbles, and slowly add water. You can also top it with sand. The main thing is to be gentle.