What is this fish. Is this a red devil or midas?

Discussion in 'Fish, Snail, Worm And Pest ID Help' started by maniacyosh1986, Jul 28, 2014.

  1. maniacyosh1986New MemberMember

    Hey picked this fish up when it was a juvie. Now it's 20 cm and I'm not sure what it is. It hasn't colour morphed and was wondering if it will

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    Hey not sure if this is a devil or midas but she has just laid eggs and is at 23 cm will she get bigger? About to move her from her 4 Foot to 8 foot :) go the 900 liters lol

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  2. Aquarist

    AquaristFishlore LegendMember

    Good morning, Welcome to Fish Lore!

    I have moved your post from the Red Devil photo thread to this one.

     

     

     

    According to the link below, the Red Devil and the Midas are the same fish:
     

    See if the links above will help you ID the fish while you wait for more responses.

    Thanks! I hope you enjoy the forum!

    Ken
     
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    maniacyosh1986New MemberMember

    Cheers Ken I'll check it out

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  4. hampalong

    hampalongWell Known MemberMember

    You can tell by the face that it's a hybrid. It has Amphilophus in it, probably Midas/Devil (these are two seperate species but most that are in the hobby are hybrids between the two). The body, colours and stripes (1st pic) say Amphilophus, but the face doesn't, nor does the grey colour of the other pics.

    I can't tell what it was hybridised with...
     
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    maniacyosh1986New MemberMember

    If this help this is the bottom 2 pictures at about 4 inches. The top picture is my other fish. She has just laid eggs. I thought it was a boy cause of the extended tails and start of a hump. It is a very aggressive fish. Killed my jaguar and tried to kill the Grey one.

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  6. Slug

    SlugWell Known MemberMember

    Amphilophus zaliosus? Amphilophus sagittae black variant?
     
  7. Marie1

    Marie1Well Known MemberMember

    Red Devils and Midas are not the same fish. Although they have been commonly mixed, and what you buy at the LFS may very well be a hybrid of the 2. If you are looking for a Red Devil, Amphilophus labiatus, or a Midas, Amphilophus Citrinellus, ones that are not hybrids, look at reputable breeders and sellers like Jeff Rapps.

    As far as the OP's fish, I think Slug has the best guess. I was thinking it was a barred midas with some red devil in it. But Amphilophus zaliosus or Amphilophus sagittae seem like an excellent possibility.
     
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    maniacyosh1986New MemberMember

    Yeah I had a Google and the zaliosus and sagittae are both so similar but they do look like them.guess it will likely stay a mystery haha. Thanks heaps

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    maniacyosh1986New MemberMember

    Just an update. I asked Jeff rapps and he said the top is definitely a barred labiatus and even thought it was one of his it looks that good haha. And the second he cannot id. At least I know what one is

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