What Is The Meaning Of Low And High Tech ? Question

Discussion in 'Freshwater Beginners' started by Roger121, Mar 15, 2019.

  1. Roger121

    Roger121Valued MemberMember

    everybody use those terms but no one explains what means, can somebody please say me what is low tech and high tech?
    PD. some people told me that terms are about the technology in the aquarium, another ppl told me is about da plants, and other ppl explain to me is about the fertilizers.
  2. AJE

    AJEFishlore VIPMember

    Low tech is: low lighting, no co2 injections and sometimes low quality substrate
    High tech: Co2, high lighting and great substrate
  3. Mary765

    Mary765Fishlore VIPMember

    I agree, but may I add that it's important for people to know so they can gauge what types of plants you can keep, and to an extent what types of fish may be suitable for you.

    Having liquid or root tab ferts can count towards a high tech tank.

    There's no boundaries really between low and high tech, but it's usually pretty obvious.
  4. -Mak-

    -Mak-Fishlore VIPMember

    I disagree, there is one factor and one factor only that divides low tech vs high tech, and that factor is injecting CO2 gas.

    If you don’t have CO2 you are low tech. High lights without CO2 is a bad idea, causes algae. Ferts are a typical addition regardless of low/high tech
  5. Tol

    TolValued MemberMember

    I have always seen the difference described as:

    Low - no CO2
    High - CO2
  6. ghostlybosun

    ghostlybosunWell Known MemberMember

    Obviously the difference is quite vast.

    Low tech: wired fish and standard definition plants

    High tech: bluetooth enabled fish and 4k plants.

    But more seriously, I would take great substrate out of that requirement for high tech. If someone has great lighting, pressurized CO2, and just water column doses I think that still qualifies. Quality substrate being a good thing as well though.
  7. jjohnwm

    jjohnwmWell Known MemberMember

    Those are pretty general, common-use terms; they don't have an actual definition. To me, CO2 is the deciding factor, although I don't really think much about it. A few decades ago, low-tech might mean no filter or aeration! :)

    It's funny how many people actually consider some plants impossible to grow unless a "high-tech" tank is used. Back in the day, most of the plants we see today were available and somehow they managed to grow in decidedly low-tech tanks; using a bit of dirt under the gravel was quite avant-garde....but apparently they just won't live today unless they are in a high-tech tank!

    Of course, if you want or need the plants to grow at their absolute maximum rate, high-tech is the way to go. But to say that they won't live without all the gadgets is patently ridiculous.
  8. ghostlybosun

    ghostlybosunWell Known MemberMember

    As a high tech user (under it's current qualities) I agree. 99% of the time anyway.
    I can't imagine that anyone grows certain very difficult plants successfully without CO2 being introduced to the system.
    I haven't bothered to look this up (so I could be very, very wrong) but I'd gather that very few people if anyone has had luck growing Rotala macrandra in low tech settings. I'm sure there are more species even more demanding.
    Also, it's not just rate of growth, quality of growth comes into the equation as well. Best colors and best form come to mind.
  9. jjohnwm

    jjohnwmWell Known MemberMember

    You're probably 100% correct. I'm far from a plant specialist, and that example you listed may well be that demanding. To me (and, again, I'm not a plant guy...) the plant selection seems only slightly more extensive than it was in those bygone days, unlike the fish selection...but that could just be my perception.

    Best colours and best form? Quality of growth? You're talking to a guy who doesn't even water his lawn...:)

    I agree that a dedicated aquarist who understands the intricacies of these things will absolutely benefit...just as the same sort of dedication and research pays off with any other hobby. But when you read posts from beginners who are asking about colour temperatures,CO2 injection, exotic substrates, etc...but are still at the point where they are also asking about how to sex their guppies...the overall effect is to detract from the credibility of some of these ideas. :)
  10. ghostlybosun

    ghostlybosunWell Known MemberMember

    Gotchya, and agree wholeheartedly. Learn how to walk before you learn how to run.
    Alternatively start with running and accept that you are going to get bruises.
    It does worry me at times how many people insist that newer entries into the hobby absolutely need dry ferts, aquasoil, pressurized CO2, and stadium lights for their planted tanks. It's a good way to either push people out of the hobby or get people to spend way more than they need to when they potentially would have been happier with less.
    I'd say it's a wash on the new entries for plants vs. fish. Buce, white Ludwigia, white Anubias, Laganadra; none of those were widely found in the hobby even as recently as I started.
  11. -Mak-

    -Mak-Fishlore VIPMember

    There are a ton of relatively new plant species in Europe that most American hobbyists haven't heard of, a lot of them tissue cultured by the aquarium plant farms over there. Unfortunately America is far behind Europe in extending the plant hobby
  12. candiedragon

    candiedragonWell Known MemberMember

    @ghostlybosun Do you watch Aquarium co-op live streams? Cory often brings up how many people suggest new hobbyists to drop so much money on these things when it may not be quite necessary. What you said made me think of it, it's good to know that others have this manner of thinking.
  13. ghostlybosun

    ghostlybosunWell Known MemberMember

    I watch him from time to time.
    Really like the Corvus Ocean (sp?) guy and also Jacob's aquariums.
  14. david1978

    david1978Fishlore LegendMember

    I still haven't graduated from my t8 lights.
  15. r5n8xaw00

    r5n8xaw00Well Known MemberMember

    I have never even heard of such thing, so know I know I am low tech, just wait to I tell my fish, as spoiled as they are I am not sure how they would take it. Thanks for that one....:mad:
  16. toosie

    toosieFishlore VIPMember

    I played with yeast mixture for CO2 back when I still had t8 lighting. I only had low light plants like windelov and some apponogetons, but that little bit of CO2 made those plants explode with growth. It was amazing! So, don't let t8 lighting prevent you from having great plant growth. So, while high tech might include pressurized CO2 and high lighting, there are very rewarding levels in between. It certainly does not have to be an all or nothing scenario.
    Thanks for the use of your post David. :)
  17. OP

    Roger121Valued MemberMember

    so de co2 is the critical factor of the high and low tech, well ,have sense xd
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