What has been your experience with Tiger Lotus?

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I'm looking for some easy to grow plants and I came across this one. I am in love with its color but I don't know if it's really easy to grow. I've heard red plants are hard to grow without CO2. Have any of you guys been successful with it?
 

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10 gallon Waterbox Mini Cube
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2 Nerite snails & an assortment of plants/cuttings
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I love my tiger lotuses! I don't use CO2 and think the coloration is still really striking. I was dosing iron for a while but stopped about 2 weeks ago due to some hair algae. The fish, shrimp, and snails also seem to like them either to lounge on (Otos) or graze on since the leaves are so big they collect debris. I loved the one in my 20 so much I bought 2 more...one for my 2.5g snail tank and another for my 10g that's cycling for shrimp. Pics of all 3 - the first two are the large one in my 20...it's been in there ~3 months, started as a bulb with a few tiny leaves. Third picture is in the 2.5 (with a mystery snail enjoying it) and the forth is in my 10 - both of those have been in the tank for about 1 month, started as bare bulbs.


Pics 5-7: I particularly love their movement...apparently they are similar to maranta and calathea with the nyctinasty movement following a circadian rhythm. Pics are same angle - early morning, midday, night.
 

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After about 1 week of purchase, my tiger lotus is blooming in a low-tech aquarium with no fertilizers. Both of them are :)
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ohhh they look so good! How many bulbs would you recommend getting? I'm thinking about 4 for my 75-gallon.
 

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ohhh they look so good! How many bulbs would you recommend getting? I'm thinking about 4 for my 75-gallon.
Yea 4 is a good amount. I have 2 in a 29 gallon. I paid for 1, but accidentally got 2 :p
 

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They spread like wild flowers and they really want a huge tank. I have a few - well purchased a few but now a couple of years later i have more than a few.
 

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My big one takes up about 1/4 of the scape when it's fully opened, front to back and side to side (it's a 20g long) if that helps you visualize the number you may need to achieve the look you're going for.
 
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My big one takes up about 1/4 of the scape when it's fully opened, front to back and side to side (it's a 20g long) if that helps you visualize the number you may need to achieve the look you're going for.
Oh wow, I think I’ll get 2 then. I’ve been looking around and I heard they can propagate fairly easily too so 4 might be unecessary.
 

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I have one in my large planted tank. I got it already with several leaves, in late January. I do not use CO2 and it has stayed red. It looks healthy and has grown new leaves but I was somehow expecting it to have grown bigger by now, it has not sent any leaves up to the surface yet. I will attach a photo of when the tank was first planted (I only have a shot of the whole tank, its near the right hand end in the photo) and the lotus now.
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I bought one for my 5 gallon low tech tank. I have obnoxiously hard water and it grew like crazy. Within two weeks it had taken over half the tank. Ended up trading it in.
 

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RTL one of my favorite plants. Started with 2 bulbs, they both started sending out runners. Ended up with them in all my tanks. Even sold a bunch. Just some pics. by the way No CO2. As mentioned they will develop long roots and can take over a tank.

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Good Luck!
 

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I bought one for my 5 gallon low tech tank. I have obnoxiously hard water and it grew like crazy. Within two weeks it had taken over half the tank. Ended up trading it in.
Interesting, my water is very soft, perhaps they prefer hard water?.
 

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Interesting, my water is very soft, perhaps they prefer hard water?.

I have no idea but it would double in size every 24 hours.
 

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I have no idea but it would double in size every 24 hours.
Yes, that is what I read about it, I thought it would be a good feature in my large tank, but it really hasn’t grown alll that much that much In 4 months.
 

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Yes, that is what I read about it, I thought it would be a good feature in my large tank, but it really hasn’t grown alll that much that much In 4 months.

I used some root tabs along with a liquid fertilizer. Maybe it liked the abundance of minerals in my water.
 

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I used some root tabs along with a liquid fertilizer. Maybe it liked the abundance of minerals in my water.
Yes, probably. I have been using a liquid fertilizer but no root tabs, it is planted in an aquasoil type substrate, so I did not think I would need them yet, but maybe its time to try some root tabs.
 

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For the most part, I've found tiger lotus to be easy to grow. But, there are a couple of hang ups I've had:
  1. I've found not every bulb one gets is good. So, it is wise to get a few just to be sure.
  2. I once tried to grow it in a peat moss substrate, black water type tank. It grew but was unhappy. I think it likes a richer substrate.
 
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I really hope mine grows well as I've heard so many good things about it. I'm planning on getting root tabs soon so that may help it.
 

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Medium hard water here, ph 7.6
Liquid ferts along with weekly 50% water changes. Once the runners started used root tabs. Also, found once established and wanted more of a bush it was recommended to trim the surface shooters.

Worked for me.
 

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Mine seems pretty happy but also hasn't sent up any leaves to the surface. No runners here either but as with any bulb I'm guessing they will definitely be easy to propagate. My water parameters are pH 7.4, gH 7-10, kH 4. I use eco complete and last added root tabs about 3 months ago so might be about time to add more. My nitrates stay around 5-10ppm despite liquid ferts (but I have Otos so I am not trying to crank up nitrates). Weekly water change ~25-30% (except in the 2.5 I do 50%). I just changed my ferts schedule to work on some hair algae. As I mentioned I stopped dosing iron about 2 weeks ago. I dose all-in-one twice a week, excel twice a week, and just got in phosphorus that I'm going to start once a week to see if it helps the small amount of GSA on some anubias. Honestly I probably need to adjust my lighting but I really enjoy the 24/7 mode I have so trying to work with the other parameters first! In a few weeks I'll re-evaluate and possibly up the all-in-one to 3x weekly, or add root tabs (or, begrudgingly, change the lighting schedule...might just raise them up a bit first and see how that goes...so many ideas that may help but trying to stick to the old rule of changing only 1 thing and then waiting to see results for a few weeks before trying something else!) Oh, I also did not bury the bulb. I had it in without any livestock for the first ~2 months so it wasn't getting knocked around and was able to send down roots to anchor itself before I added any animals. The one in my 2.5 I buried just the tip and it grew some leaves and then they got disconnected from the bulb (by a naughty mystery snail) so I planted them with the attached roots and it is still hanging in there (though not taking off like the one still attached to the bulb). The one in the shrimp tank is also just resting on top of the substrate. Not sure if any of this is helpful!
 

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Yes, mine seems happy enough, it has produced new leaves, and the leaves are bigger than they were, but it is not growing very quickly, It still looks good and has kept the colour, but I was hoping it would be more of a feature, as the tank is 160 x 60 x 60. My GH is only 1-2, pH 6.6 to 6.8, so from what others have said here I suspect these may not be the ideal conditions for it to grow like crazy. Most of my other plants are growing well and some need trimming regularly:
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How many different colours are available ?

They're either red or i've seen some that are more green.
 
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