what do I do now? guppies dying.

Dumpling
  • #1
new guppy is gone

So yesterday my new guppy was hovering and not eating. I found him dead coming back from work. my other guppy who was fine is now acting weird. staying at the bottom or swimming nose up. I'm had plan to go to the store to get tests, (my cat just swiped them and broke the tubes so can no test right now!) stress coat thing . some prime and other food type. I feel terrible. Any suggestions as what caused this?
 
TexasDomer
  • #2
Could very easily be water parameters, so get those tested as soon as you can! I would do daily water changes with Prime in the mean time.

What size tank? Do you know about the nitrogen cycle? Was the tank cycled before you added them?
 
Dumpling
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  • #3
its a 10g. I did a fishless cycle before adding the fish.

sorry clicked to fast. when the cycling was done and parameters were good I add the two boys. then two weeks latee I added anothee guppt (the one that died) and a ghost shrimp. the new one was fine till a couple of days ago. now one of my orignial is at the bottom. hes eating but I'm worriwd. I did a big water change and will run to get more tests (stupid cat what a bad timing seriously)
 
Aster
  • #4
Is he gasping?
 
Dumpling
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  • #5
nothing noticeable. And the other guy is absolutely not bothered. but hes a bit older and hardier it seems. I did a water change and that helped as hes is now swimming around.I will report back once I have done tests.
I'm bummed, as everything was going well, until I introduced the new fish. :/.
 
Aster
  • #6
I assume you didn't quarantine the new fish, and this is why it's so important to do so. You never know what diseases or things you could introduce to your established tank. It's hard to refrain from putting in the new fish right away, but patience pays off.
 
Dumpling
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  • #7
I finally got my hands on a test kit. should I do another water change to lower the nitrates? they were find yesterday!

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I'm just tired and confused. nitrite bad. nitrate at 5ppm not that bad?
 
Aster
  • #8
I'm never the best at telling colors, but you definitely have nitrites. Any amount of nitrites is harmful, so you should do daily 50% changes until you get those under control.
 
SamTheFishGuy
  • #9
This Happened to my Guppy, I guess guppies are sensitive to Different water parameters, I bought her at the store(Pregnant) and when I brought her home, acclimated her put he in, see acted weirdly. She gave birth, then died :'( . 6 mouths later I have 60+ Guppies that need to be rehomed ASAP
 
Dumpling
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  • #10
I feel like they have a parasite or worm. I did a water change and will continue to do so but I have no clue what to else to do to help.
 
Dumpling
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  • #11
I did a water change yesterday pm. He is still alive but weak. hes at the bottom of the tank with his nose up and tail down. Hes hiding in the plants. I don't think hes going to make it.

HI all. this is an update as I haven't gotten any suggestions besides wster changes.

so I introduced a new guppy this weekend to my month old tank. (I am now aware I should have quarantined, I will not repeat the same mistake.)

the new guppy stopped eating, started hovering and died less than 48 hours later.

I did tests (please note I switched the ph and nitrites by accident), did water changes and dosed with melafix.
Now one of the guppies is at the bottom, looking weak and nose up tail down. the third guppy is ok for now but I suspect its because hes always been the big boy and strong, so he might be next.

Beside daily water changes and fasting them in case its swim bladder (is it contagious though?), what can I do? Should I keep treating with melafix or should I get something fornfungus or parasites? suggestions?
 
Aster
  • #12
I don't know any parasite that would affect them like that.

How was the new guppy acclimated?
 
Teishokue
  • #13
Your tank isn't cycled. Perform a cycle before trying to keep the fish you want
 
Coradee
  • #14
Threads have been merged so all the information is in one place.
 
Aquaphobia
  • #15
It does look like you have some nitrates so you may actually be cycled, however, I am concerned that the nitrite reading might not be zero. Is it light blue or dark like in the picture? If dark it means that nitrites are >0. Frequent water changes are the first line of defense so that's what I'd start with. What is your current water change schedule?
 
Dumpling
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  • #16
I had cycled without fish for about a month. the ph tube and the nitrate are mixed up. ph is darker blue and nitrite is pale blue. I just did another this am. ph 7.4 amnonia 0 nitrate 5ppm nitrite 0.

I don't know any parasite that would affect them like that.

How was the new guppy acclimated?
I didnt quarantine it. which was a big mistake. but I put the bag in the tank. added a bit of water at a time and added him after half an hour or so. The two original guppies were doing great prior to this. it started going south with the new one
 
Aquaphobia
  • #17
Can you please do the pH test again? I don't recognize that colour from the chart.
 
Dumpling
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  • #18
so I did a new test this am. I used tw high ph test. the color came out matching 7.4 on the chart. I can't take a pic as I'm at work now. all the other parameters are the same as yesterdays test. if when I get home the guppies are alive I will keep up with the water change.
 
TexasDomer
  • #19
It's entirely possible you introduced a parasite, bacteria, or virus when you introduced the new fish
 
Dumpling
  • Thread Starter
  • #20
it feels like it. is there a medication I can give? like a parasite thing? I feel really terrible for the poor guys.
 
TexasDomer
  • #21
Without knowing what it is, it's impossible to suggest a medication that will cure it. While I don't normally recommend treating without knowing what's causing the issue, you could try PraziPro. It's very gently on the fish and won't harm your cycle or inverts (unless you keep worms in the tank).
 
Dumpling
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  • #22
ok. got home and they are alive. these are my new results. what is going on here? fyI I added a bit of melafix (prescribed does for a 10g) but that was yesterday. should I do another wtc? I did a small one this a
 
TexasDomer
  • #23
Definitely do a water change to get the ammonia down.

I wouldn't bother adding Melafix - I doubt it will do anything.
 
Dumpling
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  • #24
I'm having difficulties with my phone. everything is dying around me geez. I meant to say : I did a small water change this am. but these results are not good. I'm going to the lfs tonget my water tested there just in case.

went to lfs. he retested my water. did a partial change. thebwater is fine. its probably a parasite of some kind. my yellow cobra guppy is dying now. laying down in substrate and gasping.
 
Aquaphobia
  • #25
Did the LFS employee give you exact numbers?
 
Dumpling
  • Thread Starter
  • #26
he used the same kit I did. the freshwater master kit. the ph is 7.4 but normal as per our town.
 
Aquaphobia
  • #27
And did he get the same results as you?
 
Dumpling
  • Thread Starter
  • #28
yes. the exact same thing.
 
Aster
  • #29
Could you take a video of the guppy?
 
Dumpling
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  • #30
I can take a pic. the watee is a bit cloudy because I did a water change.

please excuse the dirty glass, and particles. I just did a water change and also had to move a plant to get to him.

the weird thing is, hes strong enough to "espcape" me. he swam to the air stone, up then swam against current back dowm?
 
Aster
  • #31
This is the original guppy, right, not the new one?

Is he eating?
 
Dumpling
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  • #32
This is the original guppy, right, not the new one?

Is he eating?
no not eating. its the original. both originals are still alive. I actually tried giving him food. pushing it close to him but he is avoiding me and swimming away. then landing back on the gravel. it mighr be a good sign if he actually is making an effort to avoid me ? grasping at straws her I know. I'm kind of attached to these two
 
Dumpling
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  • #33
I woke and he was dead. when I took him out of the tank his tail fell off. it was ok yesterday. I do have a surviving guppy and a ghost shrimp. they might have poked him? . ph 7.4 amnonia 0 nitrIte 0 nitrAte between 0 and 5.. temp 28 c/(80).

the remaining was at the bottom this am. but he came up for food, ate a bite and went back to his spot. he can swim fine to go peck for food which he just did. I dunno if hes stressed or sick. He was always hanging out the one that just died.

My questions are, should I keep up with a pwc daily? if so how much and should I vacuum the sibstrate every time as well? feels like I would disrupt the cycle.

If blue survives how long should I wait before adding a new buddy for him? I have no plans as of now but I'm worried being alone is going to stress him out even more.
 
Aquaphobia
  • #34
Vacuuming the substrate won't disturb your cycle, most of the BB is in your filter media.

What size is your tank again and what is the current stock? You want to be doing regular water changes to replenish lost minerals as much as to reduce nitrates.
 
Dumpling
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  • #35
its a 10 gallon and my stock was 3 guppies and a ghost shrimp. I was planning on getting another shrimp and another guppy and stop there. now its one guppy and the shrimp
eta: I did a small water change and turned off the light and Blue came out and is swimming around. if I approach the tank he swims away and hides . he probably sees me as the gigantic murdering head
 
Aquaphobia
  • #36
What are your parameters now? Are you still showing ammonia?
 
Dumpling
  • Thread Starter
  • #37
What are your parameters now? Are you still showing ammonia?
not this am. ph 7.4 amnonia 0 nitrite 0 nitrate under 5 but not 0. I don't believe it was the water.
 
Aster
  • #38
Are his fins clamped? Does he look bloated?
 
Dumpling
  • Thread Starter
  • #39
Are his fins clamped? Does he look bloated?
no he looks great. fins are out. no signs of bloating? He swims around but hides when he sees me : managed to tac a pic. he was swimming around and darted to the back in the plant when he saw me. he waits til I'm gone to come out of hiding.
 
Aster
  • #40
If he's behaving normally, I would just give it a few days. Keep doing water changes, those won't hurt.
 

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