What Do I Do, 2 Rummynose Half Eaten.

IcedColdMine
  • #1
This morning I found 2 rummynose half eaten. I'm wondering what do I do? I have 3 angels, didn't know they would eat my tetras.
 
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david1978
  • #2
I certainly wouldn't add more rummynose. Being a bigger tetra they should of been ok. Guess not.
 
AmnScott
  • #3
It's possible that wasn't the cause of death. Maybe they died, due to illness or something else, and the angelfish or other tetra fed on them.
 
ChiefBrody
  • #4
That's awesome. They are cichlids after all. Maybe they're breeding or attempting too. The quick ones should survive but if you don't wanna loose any I'd give them a bigger school to hide in. Strength in numbers is how they do it in the wild, ya kno? Be prepared to loose fish in any "community" - there's really no such thing. They "tolerate" to a degree but every tank has it's breaking point. Think of it as an equation. If it's not in perfect harmony the system will balance itself out. There's so many variables though so just be imaginative and I'm sure you'll find something that works for you. It might just be one of the angels that's doing it. I'd add twice as many rummynose and put them all under observation til you see what's happening
 
Prism
  • #5
I agree with Scott, they could of died.
Since angels forge the bottom for food, they could have eaten the half of the dead body.
 
IcedColdMine
  • Thread Starter
  • #6
That's awesome. They are cichlids after all. Maybe they're breeding or attempting too. The quick ones should survive but if you don't wanna loose any I'd give them a bigger school to hide in. Strength in numbers is how they do it in the wild, ya kno? Be prepared to loose fish in any "community" - there's really no such thing. They "tolerate" to a degree but every tank has it's breaking point. Think of it as an equation. If it's not in perfect harmony the system will balance itself out. There's so many variables though so just be imaginative and I'm sure you'll find something that works for you. It might just be one of the angels that's doing it. I'd add twice as many rummynose and put them all under observation til you see what's happening
I saw the 2 bigger angels beating on the smaller one so I moved the smaller angel to my gourami tank and the bottom fin of my gourami was missing.... jeez pick on someone your own size.

Do you know any non-aggresive angelfish species? I check water parameters, .2 ammonia 0 nirtrites and around 2 nitrates. All being sucked out by the plants.
 
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Prism
  • #7
I knew there would be some problems with three angelfish.
Either find a new tank for the angel, and leave him alone, or find him a mate his size.

I'm not really experienced with angelfish.
I know that Dave125g is very experienced with them.
 
IcedColdMine
  • Thread Starter
  • #8
I knew there would be some problems with three angelfish.
Either find a new tank for the angel, and leave him alone, or find him a mate his size.

I'm not really experienced with angelfish.
I know that Dave125g is very experienced with them.
It's still a disaster lol. Whatever tank I put the smaller angel in he/she bullies or gets bullied zzzzz.

So all 3 angels are fighting and 1 rummynose died... rip.

It's possible that wasn't the cause of death. Maybe they died, due to illness or something else, and the angelfish or other tetra fed on them.
What illness? They looked fine last night, I just woke up to a dead one floating at the top, will the others die? I'm a bit worried.
 
Prism
  • #9
Go to walmart, get a 10 gallon glofish tank for 30$.
Keep him in there for just a little, until you can find a new tank for him, or rehome him.
 
IcedColdMine
  • Thread Starter
  • #10
Go to walmart, get a 10 gallon glofish tank for 30$.
Keep him in there for just a little, until you can find a new tank for him, or rehome him.
Alright, and do you think an angelfish could nip 1 single rummy to death, because when you say disease I had Pecos eat dead fish before, I thought the pleco ate the fish but most likely illness........ the 3 angels nip eachother but I can't see really any find missing.
 
Dave125g
  • #11
When you have 3 angels in a tank that are fighting, there far too busy with each other to hunt down and kill a tetra. Illness of some kind is more then likely the issue here.

The odd angelfish does need to be rehomed however.
 
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Leslie.
  • #12
I had 2 angelfish (male & female) who I bought together, so they were the same size. They grew up with the fish we currently have. Had no problems until the male decided to show dominance in the tank. I have never seen any fish pick on a Silver Dollar as bad as what the angelfish did. Sadly, I re-homed them both, and now there is no nipping or bullying in the tank.
 
ChiefBrody
  • #13
You gotta watch for a while. On your next day off really check steadily every couple hours (at night too) and witness their behavior. Angels do really well in ponds believe it or not. Not like releasing them or anything but keeping them in an in ground pond. They can't stay in there all winter but they really like it and aren't as territorial
 
Mcasella
  • #14
Rummynose are torpedo shaped so they would become a target to an angel that is not used to them, my breeder sized koi angel (first ones I had) tried to eat a black neon tetra that wouldnt have even fit in his mouth (likely he would have choked on it and both would have died, but his behavior made the other angels try to follow suit). A thicker bodied tetra is needed, but not something that resembles an angel in size or shape.
 
IcedColdMine
  • Thread Starter
  • #15
Rummynose are torpedo shaped so they would become a target to an angel that is not used to them, my breeder sized koi angel (first ones I had) tried to eat a black neon tetra that wouldnt have even fit in his mouth (likely he would have choked on it and both would have died, but his behavior made the other angels try to follow suit). A thicker bodied tetra is needed, but not something that resembles an angel in size or shape.
What would you recommend? I like the look of serpae tetras but I assume they would win in the "nipping battle" what about tiger barbs?
 
Mcasella
  • #16
What would you recommend? I like the look of serpae tetras but I assume they would win in the "nipping battle" what about tiger barbs?
There are several types of thicker bodied tetras but I would have to look them up to Gove you a list, tiger barbs are relative peaceful to other fish as long as they have a school to focus their aggression on, but require large (10+) schools for that to be possible.
 
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IcedColdMine
  • Thread Starter
  • #17
There are several types of thicker bodied tetras but I would have to look them up to Gove you a list, tiger barbs are relative peaceful to other fish as long as they have a school to focus their aggression on, but require large (10+) schools for that to be possible.
Hey do you know any smaller peaceful angelfish species?
 
Greg F
  • #18
There really is no non aggressive type of Angel. They will eventually try to eat anything they can fit in their mouth. That being said I way prefer having them in even numbers. 4 or 6 are likely to be way more concerned with one another than tank mates but a breeding pair will become aggressive while spawning. They are a mixed bag for sure.
 
IcedColdMine
  • Thread Starter
  • #19
There really is no non aggressive type of Angel. They will eventually try to eat anything they can fit in their mouth. That being said I way prefer having them in even numbers. 4 or 6 are likely to be way more concerned with one another than tank mates but a breeding pair will become aggressive while spawning. They are a mixed bag for sure.
Would a breeding pair, the, khulies, and tetras work or would they eat more of the fish.....
 
Greg F
  • #20
If the tetras are in proper number and a bit larger , sure.
 
IcedColdMine
  • Thread Starter
  • #21
If the tetras are in proper number and a bit larger , sure.
Rummynose are large.
 
Greg F
  • #22
Yes but again I doubt the deaths were predation from the angels and even if they were larger numbers provide a greater number of targets.
 

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