What color swordtail is this?

Ceaselesswatcher
  • #1
Hi everyone, this is my first post on here!
So about a year and a half ago, I bought a female swordtail from a specialty fish store, and it was labeled a “wild type” coloured swordtail. It was mostly grey with a pinkish brown line down the side. Since then, there have been two or three generations of swordtails in my tank, and I’ve been getting these grey and orange ones lately. I’m just wondering if anyone knows what this colouration is called, as I also breed English show budgies so I love genetics:) As you can see, the fish have some blue iridescence to them.


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This is the colouration one im asking about. There already also some females.

This one in the green water was one of the first generations with the grey, as you can see its all grey with a pinkish brown line down the side.

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Thank you so much for any help you can offer!
 

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chromedome52
  • #2
Your fish appear to be Neon Swords, as they are showing red saddle trait, which is the red dorsal and red area along the back. It can be slight, like yours, or extend down as far as the lateral band on the flanks. It is a dominant trait, so likely your green swordtail female was hit by a male with a saddle. Combined with a gold body color they are called Pineapple Swords. Without the gold color it used to be an undesirable trait, but someone gave it the name Neon Sword, and started marketing them. It was my bane when I was playing with Sword genetics, as it is hidden on a Red or Orange Swordtail. Red is also a dominant trait, and these can be very difficult to remove from a line. I believe Saddle also occurs in some true wild populations, but genuine wild Green Swordtails are not common in the hobby. Most Green swords are just pond raised fish sorted for their lack of other colors, but some unscrupulous wholesalers will market them as "wild type". Genetically they are usually far from pure helleri.
 

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Brentar
  • #3
I have seen similar ones labeled as Pineapple swordtails, but I'm not 100% sure.
 
Ceaselesswatcher
  • Thread Starter
  • #4
Thank you so much that really helped a lot!
 
emeraldking
  • #5
It's a neon swordtail. Pineapple swordtails are a bit similar but with more yellow on their bodies.
I believe Saddle also occurs in some true wild populations, but genuine wild Green Swordtails are not common in the hobby. Most Green swords are just pond raised fish sorted for their lack of other colors, but some unscrupulous wholesalers will market them as "wild type". Genetically they are usually far from pure helleri.
The saddleback trait is dominant in inheritance.
I agree that most so-called green swordtails from wholesalers are breeding forms and not a real wild form. But wholesalers don't give much about the correct name as long as it sounds interesting to increase the sales. Which is a kind of hypocritical because they call themselves specialists.
But real X.helleriis can differ in phenotype depending on where the populations occur in the wild.
 

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