What Can I Do To Help My Betta Not Be Stressed.

Discussion in 'Betta Fish' started by Alphafish98, Jun 16, 2018.

  1. Alphafish98

    Alphafish98 Valued Member Member

    hello idk if this is a dumb post to make or not but I’ve been noticing a problem with one of my bettas, tiny parts of his fins are turning white so I’m assuming he’s stress about something, it isn’t the water I’ve check it everything is how it should be with a betta and he is showing signs of good health it’s just sometimes I heard splashing in the middle of the night and I check on him and I see him panting but calms a little when he sees me. I have him in a 5.5 gallon tank with a little snails like Nerites and a rams horn and 3 ADF so I’m thinking it’s maybe them spooking him at night since they’re nocturnal, is there a way to help my betta not be so stressed with these frogs.
     
  2. Fanatic

    Fanatic Fishlore VIP Member

    Hello!

    So, what you think is happening, may be fading colors?
    Firstly, you shouldn’t have him with those frogs, and you have too many of them. I don’t recommend ADF in a tank with other fish, as they aren’t good at finding food because of their bad eyesight. They are best alone.

    Did you cycle your tank?

    What are your parameters?
    That could really mean something with the loss of color in your betta, which can just plainly mean he’s stressed. I would do a water change, and see how he improves or worsens, let’s hope for the best.

    Could you upload a photo? That’d really help :)
     
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    Alphafish98

    Alphafish98 Valued Member Member

    Yes it’s cycled and I have no where else to put these frogs and I was told that is a fine amount for a tank that size and the frogs don’t seem to have problems with food when I feed them had these guys for months. And I’ll send a picture
     




  4. Fanatic

    Fanatic Fishlore VIP Member

    Who told you it was fine?
    You should have ten gallons for three frogs, especially with a betta.
     
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    Alphafish98

    Alphafish98 Valued Member Member

    Just to let you know he looked like this when I got him, I was lucky to find him and the other betta when I did.
     

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  6. Fanatic

    Fanatic Fishlore VIP Member

    He really looks like a good one!
    What are the parameters?
     
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    Alphafish98

    Alphafish98 Valued Member Member

    Ugh... seriously? I read a lot of articles and ask around and people said that was fine, oh well I can’t do anything about it. I’m not a bad pet owner, I just thought that was fine apparently I shouldn’t believe anything that I’m told in this hobby everyone has too many mix opinions
     
  8. Fanatic

    Fanatic Fishlore VIP Member

    No need to be mean, honestly.
    It’s not typically a good idea, personally I wouldn’t ever do it. If you were told by a store employee, then it’s most likely wrong.
     
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    Alphafish98

    Alphafish98 Valued Member Member

    The temperature is good at 80, I’ve read that’s a ideal range and yea there is a heater. PH is good around 7.

    Um? I wasn’t being mean at all. And I didn’t know I don’t like it when people bash on someone for not knowing something in this hobby I’m not saying you are but I see that a lot it’s just a little mistake it’s not a big deal.
     
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  10. Fanatic

    Fanatic Fishlore VIP Member

    Those aren’t the full parameters.
    I need to know Ammonia, Nitrite, and Nitrate.
     
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    Alphafish98

    Alphafish98 Valued Member Member

    Oh sorry ammonia, nitrites and nirates are at 0 I actually did a water change not that long ago.

    If I have to do another one I guess I can do it.
     
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  12. midna

    midna Well Known Member Member

    hi there! i'm sorry your betta is having problems. i hope we can give some suggestions for a calmer fish :)

    fanatic is right, three frogs, a betta and snails is pretty crowded for a 5.5g. i'd be concerned about space issues and too much ammonia. i highly recommend you plan on upgrading to a 10g or larger and that would be perfect. do you have enough hiding places for both the bettas and the frogs, and enough silk or live plants for your betta to rest on? maybe a floating betta log or leaf? bettas really love those, and they're good beds for them to get away from the frogs.

    you can also try putting some indian almond leaves in the tank. it'll turn your water kind of brownish/yellow, but the tannins are supposed to calm bettas down and make them feel safer. i'm sure the frogs will also love some leaf litter on the bottom of the tank :) how often do you do water changes, and how much water do you take out and replace?
     
  13. CanadianFishFan

    CanadianFishFan Well Known Member Member

    To me it looks like he is marbleing (changing colors) The type of blue betta he is its quite common.
     
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    Alphafish98

    Alphafish98 Valued Member Member

    I do 50% weekly and I never have ammonia problems with this tank I do pretty good with it, and I’ve heard of those floating logs I’ve been think of getting one, and I have some almond leaves I guess I can put some in his tank. And I can’t do nothing about a tank size, I’m not rich so I can’t get stuff like crazy I wish I could.

    Whenever the lights hit him you can see a very pretty blue so his color is nice it’s just that he’s probably stress.
     
  15. Aquilist

    Aquilist Valued Member Member

    I agree that the tank is a bit overcrowded. The African Dwarf Frogs would be happier without fish to steal their food and the betta may not be so disturbed at night.
     
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    Alphafish98

    Alphafish98 Valued Member Member

    Well there isn’t a problem with anyone stealing food. And I can’t simply get a new tank like that I don’t have money all the time.
     
  17. Aquilist

    Aquilist Valued Member Member

    It's just that African dwarf frogs need around 1 gallon each, so that's 3 gallons, the Betta needs a minimum of 2.5 gallons, so that's 5.5 gallons, so already you're at the maximum of animals you can keep in that tank. Then you have the snails which often produce quite a lot of waste, so that tank is overcrowded, hence why your Betta may be stressed.
     
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    Alphafish98

    Alphafish98 Valued Member Member

    But they’re small
     
  19. Aquilist

    Aquilist Valued Member Member

    Just because they're small doesn't mean they don't produce waste. Your tank is overcrowded.
     
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    Alphafish98

    Alphafish98 Valued Member Member

    K
     




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