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Discussion in 'Water Changes' started by SilverMIssy, Jul 23, 2015.

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    SilverMIssyValued MemberMember

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    I got my api test kit and here are the results.

    Ph 7.5

    Ammonia 0.25 ppm

    Nitrites 0 ppm

    Nitrates 0 ppm ( colour was a little darker than what was on the colour chart for 0 ppm but not dark enough to be 5.0 ppm)


     
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    Ok good, are you using any bacteria products?
     
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    No I haven't. But you guys mentioned stability or something?


     
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    Ya, I was looking into it but petsmart here doesn't carry it. I'm going to see how expensive it is to order online.


     
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    Strange, because the Petsmart in the US does have it. Do you have an Amazon account?
     
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    Yes I do. I'm going to check now.

    Question: since my standard ph range was on the high side I did another test with the high range ph and it came out as 7.8 :/ that's really alkaline for a betta. I don't know which test to believe.


     
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    These days, most fish will adapt to most pH ranges as they're mostly tank-raised. Only ones who will have a harder time acclimating will be the wild-caught ones. But even those can adapt over time. I have 10 wild-caught Pelvicachromis in a pH of 8.2, normally they should be in 7.0-7.5 but they're all doing fine. Its easier for soft-water fish to adapt to hard water than the other way around. I wouldn't really worry about it much.
     
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    It shouldnt cause any problems. A lot of people use it to speed up the cycle.
     
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    It would take me a week to get the product shipped here now that it's the weekend. I plan on getting it but in the mean time would one of these be a temporary substitute. Both of them are available at my petsmart. Apparently the marineland has good reviews. Not sure about the top fin one.
     
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    If the standard pH test kit is maxing out, then the High Range pH kit is giving you the correct pH level.

    It would be like if you had two thermometers. One that measures from 0 degrees to 55 degrees, and one that measures from 50 degrees to 100 degrees. If the temperature you were measuring was 55 degrees or less, the low range thermometer would be correct. But if the temperature you were measuring was 85 degrees, the low range thermometer would be maxed out at 55 degrees, but the high range thermometer would read the correct 85 degrees.
     
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    Thanks jdhef. Good to know.

    ImageUploadedByFish Lore Aquarium Fish Forum1437833173.306340.

    Ran out and bought this. I'll order stability tonight online.


     
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    Personally, I love fluval products.

     
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    I would go with the Marineland between the two.

    One of the things you need to watch for is that some of the BB supplements out there are a strain that is short lived and kill the long lived strain. Also a lot of them have a shelf life shorter than they want you to believe so you end up with a bottle of dead BB and a lighter wallet.. In your case I would just wait the week and do water changes to keep the ammonia at bay
     
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    Oh man, I didn't know that. I went to a small local fish store right next to my house since petsmart is farther away and got the fluval brand. :/ I hope that is okay.

    Edit: I just looked it up and it looks like this bacteria is short lived because people are saying it only works if you keep using it. ****, I rushed out and grabbed the first thing I saw because my betta is pacing under the filter. It doesn't look like when he used to play in it. It looks like he's stressed. He was pacing last night for an hour or so.


     
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    Yep if it's not Seachem Stability or Tetra SafeStart Plus, it doesn't work. That includes API quick start, the Fluval brand, the stress zyme and I think there are others. They're called snake oil in a bottle lol.


     
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    Well, I put 25ml in anyway. I'll test the levels tomorrow. If it's snake oil, it's no harm done. I'll just bring it back and say it sucks and want my money back. I'm ordering the good stuff anyway.

    My betta is still swimming through the filter but he doesn't look stressed today. I fasted him today to let his system rest too.

    Edit: I retested my ammonia today before I put it in and it was the same as yesterday so I'll see if anything changes.


     
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    Well .....that sucks to here about fluval bacteria.....I dose every week so I guess that's ok but I sure won't be cycling any tanks with it from now on!

     
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    It's been a full week now and my ammonia levels are still at .25 ppm. Should I wait a little longerfor ammonia levels to be between .25 and .5 before doing a pwc or do a small one anyway?

    Nitrites still have not shown up.


     
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