Wanting To Switch To Prime But Have Questions

Discussion in 'Water Conditioners and Supplements' started by BettaFishKeeper4302, Jun 19, 2018.

  1. BettaFishKeeper4302

    BettaFishKeeper4302Well Known MemberMember

    So i have been using tetra aquasafe for as long as i have been in the hobby for 4 years but only really into it about 7 months or more and i am wanting to switch to prime because i hear it's good. It's probably better than tetra aquasafe. Anyways do i just treat it has a normal water conditioner and just use it when i do my water changes? Will it have a negative affect on my tank because it's something new? Do i use it with something else when doing water changes, or just use it alone like i have been with tetra aquasafe?
     
  2. Fashooga

    FashoogaFishlore VIPMember

    If it ain't broke don't fix it. That's how I see it. I've been using API Stress Coat since I started.
     
  3. IHaveADogToo

    IHaveADogTooWell Known MemberMember

    I use prime as my normal water conditioner, which is probably a waste. It does work as a water conditioner, but the way it detoxifies ammonia and nitrite is the reason people use it. If your tank isn't still cycling, there shouldn't be much reason to detoxify ammonia and nitrite, except for the occasion when something happens (like an ammonia spike). Or if your tap has ammonia in it.
     




  4. OP
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    BettaFishKeeper4302

    BettaFishKeeper4302Well Known MemberMember

    Yeah i understand what you mean but i just want to switch.

    So use it as a water conditioner???
     
  5. IHaveADogToo

    IHaveADogTooWell Known MemberMember

    You *can* use it as a water conditioner. I'm just saying it's probably overkill for your regular water conditioner, even though that's exactly what I do.
     




  6. bizaliz3

    bizaliz3Fishlore LegendMember

    Why would it be overkill? You need a water conditioner if the tap water has chlorine, so why not get a conditioner that has added benefits? I don't really understand that thought process at all.....
     
  7. leftswerve

    leftswerveWell Known MemberMember

    Water conditioner in the sense of removing chlorine and chloramine.
    How else (what other functions) do you want it to condition the water?
     
  8. OP
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    BettaFishKeeper4302

    BettaFishKeeper4302Well Known MemberMember

    I thought it was used for something else. So use it as a water conditioner. Got it. Unless i am wrong... What do you guys use?
     
  9. Colt Frost

    Colt FrostWell Known MemberMember

  10. sleow

    sleowValued MemberMember

    Prime works great for water conditioner. Simply follow the instructions on the bottle. You really only need a couple drops per gallon, so if you use it correctly, you won't need as much conditioner in the long run. You can simply start using Prime instead of Tetra Aquasafe with your next water change.

    It also works well if you're having an ammonia spike because it detoxifies ammonia and nitrites.
     
  11. bizaliz3

    bizaliz3Fishlore LegendMember

    No you are not wrong. Prime is a water conditioner. But it is a water conditioner that has added benefits. And those Benefits aren't a waste at all IMO. So I don't see any reason for people to be against it....

    Have you ever tested your tap water for ammonia? A lot of people have low levels of ammonia in their tap water. Myself included. So I like knowing that while my beneficial bacteria is eating up the added ammonia (which is does in less than 24 hours) that the prime is detoxifying that low level of ammonia so the fish don't even notice.

    Unless prime is much more expensive, I don't see any reason to NOT use it. Just for that extra level of security.
     
  12. OP
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    BettaFishKeeper4302

    BettaFishKeeper4302Well Known MemberMember

    That's what i needed to hear! Thanks.
     
  13. Keith83Valued MemberMember

    I use Prime for the most part but if you're adding bacteria to speed up a cycle or mini cycle then using prime will kill it. I'd use the AquaSafe if thats the case. Also, If you're adding liquid plant fertilizer then wait at least 24 hours after using Prime.
     
  14. bzambo66

    bzambo66Valued MemberMember

    I thought prime binds it and doesn't kill it.
     
  15. IHaveADogToo

    IHaveADogTooWell Known MemberMember

    This is correct. Prime does not kill ammonia or nitrite, it only binds them. And it certainly doesn't kill bacteria.
     
  16. Fanatic

    FanaticFishlore VIPMember

    Seachem Prime binds ammonia, nitrite, and some nitrate for a period of roughly 24 hours, and then the chemicals will be released into the water column if the bacteria hasn't absorbed it.
    Prime will not kill your cycled media, it just aids in ammonia binding while the cycle catches up.
    Normally, if your cycle is established and strong, you shouldn't be having residual ammonia after 24 hours. That's how it is for my tank, ammonia doesn't stay in the water long.
     
  17. bitseriously

    bitseriouslyWell Known MemberMember

    Has anyone done a cost per gallon estimate on various conditioners and dechlors?
    At 2 drops per gallon, or 1mL per 10gal, I would imagine that Prime is one of the cheaper and more cost effective conditioners, because it's so concentrated. That alone would convince most. It's like getting the bentley at the budget price!
    But I haven't done the comparison. Anyone?
     
  18. bitseriously

    bitseriouslyWell Known MemberMember

    I've heard this also. Never seen anything from Seachem on the subject though.
     
  19. Keith83Valued MemberMember

    Seachem has a weekly fert dosing chart that shows to do a water change on day 7 using prime and no ferts, days 1 trough 6 you dose with ferts. It's at least implied with that
     
  20. TheeLadyG

    TheeLadyGValued MemberMember

    While doing my fishless cycle I used API StressCoat to detoxify chlorine and chloramine without binding the ammonia or nitrite, to allow my bacteria colonies to get started.

    I use Prime as my regular water conditioner now that my tank is established. I got it mainly because it is very inexpensive comparatively, I use 2 drops per gallon (from a syringe). The bottle I got is going to last me for years~!!
     




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