Visio 26-gallon Tank And Stand

Discussion in 'Freshwater Aquarium Builds' started by CichlidLover5, Apr 8, 2017.

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    CichlidLover5 New Member Member

    Hi all,

    I have a very important question about the stand that came together with the Visio 26-Gallon tank.

    The owner of the independently-owned Pet Store stated that the stand I have is made out of, he believes pine wood, although the stand is on the lighter side and not that heavy. The owner stated that they don't make stands like this anymore and assured me of the stand holding-up at least 25 years, which I wasn't buying, but for the good price I bought the tank-stand combo.

    There seems to be a lot of support on the four corners, but very little support on the back slab of the tank.

    I am very concerned that if the back slab cracks I am done for and will have a flood. Plus, the tank looks in great condition, but I believe the stand was previously used or has been sitting in the store for years, as it was extremely dusty and had lots of cobwebs and spiders under it. Furthermore, some minor paint is chipped off and a small chipped piece of wood is missing on one leg of stand. I mention these details, so as to make sure the age of the stand doesn't matter in it's usefulness of the stand.

    I am trying to upload photos from my phone, but the images are apparently too big to be uploaded?

    I welcome all of your experienced suggestions and honesty before I make a mistake a will regret later...
     
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    danhutchins Valued Member Member

    If you are questioning the integrity of any stand I would say don't do it. Even if it is for a TV, if you have to question it don't use it. It sounds like he just wanted it gone so honestly if it were me I would not use it.
     
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    CichlidLover5 New Member Member

    Here are photos of my stand.

    Also, the tank is right behind the stand.

    Please advice me of what to do, as I can still return the stand for store credit and he can make me one out of 2x4's, but it takes two to three weeks...
     

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  4. MikeRad89

    MikeRad89 Well Known Member Member

    Looks very solid to me. I don't question his 25 year estimate at all.

    Only the 4 corners actually come in contact with a proper stand, you should be able to fit a piece of paper between the front, back and sides between the trim and stand.

    Having a new one made would be a complete waste of time and money.
     
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    CichlidLover5 New Member Member

    I thought it was strong, but I'm having a hard time convincing my wife of it's sturdiness. She thinks it's too light of a stand and that the back slab on, as you can see on my second photo, isn't strong enough. Won't that weak back slab crack due to the pressure? Is pine strong enough?

    Sorry, just need to ease my wife's and my mind.
     
  6. MikeRad89

    MikeRad89 Well Known Member Member

    While pine in not terribly strong, it is more than enough for a tank this size.

    The back beam, as I said, will be supporting absolutely no weight. Only the 4 corners will actually be in contact with the stand, which is why the corners of the stand are reinforced.

    I would feel completely comfortable putting it in my house to be honest. No hesistation.
     
  7. KimberlyG

    KimberlyG Fishlore VIP Member

    I'm looking at the reinforcements at all the corners. I do understand what you wife is saying, visually that looks weak. Cut a piece of 3/4" OSB to match the interior dimentions, drop it in and you're good to go.
     
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    CichlidLover5 New Member Member

    Do you feel it is safe and effective as is?

    Also, could you please elaborate on what you mean by what OSB is and what it's used for in my situation.

    I will trust your judgement.

    By the way, are these types of stands obsilete or hard to find, as the shop owner states?

    Thanks!
     
  9. KimberlyG

    KimberlyG Fishlore VIP Member

    Sorry, the husband is a contractor and sometimes I forget that not everyone knows this stuff and doesn't have a ton of it in their garage. OSB is a composite plywood. It's pretty strong. As far as the stand being fine as is, I believe it could be. The problem is it's pine. Not all pine is the same. Our old growth forests have disappeared or been bought by foreign interests. New pine is not as sturdy. That is why we have all the cross braces etc. It warps and twists. You said this stand was old. Any change it is going to make usually happens in the first year so that is a good thing. Your wife is concerned because of the thickness of the slat and the span it covers. I can't say I blame her but I have seen far flimsier stands. (I just opened the picture again the top is plywood as well as the bottom. I don't know why they didn't just use a full sheet. But plywood bends.) You will have all four corners in solid contact with the frame but nothing as sturdy as a 2x4 taking up the weight on the sides.
     
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    CichlidLover5 New Member Member

    Ok, so should I add extra support using 2x4's, and if so, how would I accomplish this as I have no woodworking experience and don't want to mess with the stand toi much.

    So, the stand isn't entirely pine?
     
  11. MikeRad89

    MikeRad89 Well Known Member Member

    The stand is more than sufficient.

    You don't have to be a contractor to see that. It is sealed to prevent water damage and has good reinforcement on all four corners.

    The tank is 25 gallons. It's not something to be concerned about at all, I promise you.
     
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    CichlidLover5 New Member Member

    Thanks!

    I did place the aquarium on top of the stand and a piece of paper does go between the tank and back slab, so that's making me feel better. Once I set it up, I will try that again. Hopefully the stand won't crack or fall apart when I am filling it with water; we'll see.

    One last question, while I was moving the stand to another room today with my wife, accidentally I hit one of the legs against my body hard and heard a noise in the stand. Is the stand still alright?

    I know I'm getting a little obsessed, but I just don't know how much force and exertion the stand can take...
     
  13. APierce

    APierce Well Known Member Member

    Check for cracks, and to make sure all of the legs are still straight. I doubt you cracked it or anything, if you did, your leg would be in some serious pain! It will all be okay, just make sure it is level.
     
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    CichlidLover5 New Member Member

    Yeah, I kinda thought I was overreacting.

    Also, I believe the Visio tank may be a little old too just like the stand, so would the sealant be ok or will I need to reseal it, if possible? I'm not sure how long the tank and stand have been sitting in the store...

    Thanks for your reply!
     
  15. APierce

    APierce Well Known Member Member

    If you know it is old, and you are paranoid about it, just redo the caulking in it. You should be able to tell how strong it is by cleaning out the tank really good with hot water. If it needs done the edges will be coming up a little bit (just like it would in a shower that needs redone at home)
     
  16. AllieSten

    AllieSten Fishlore VIP Member

    Why don't you do a test run? Set everything up, fill the tank with water, and let it sit on the stand for 3-4 days. See how it all settles in. I would probably even add my substrate since weight is your main concern. I did 2 separate leak tests in my garage before deciding the tank could come inside lol
     
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    CichlidLover5 New Member Member

    As soon as I set my tank up and filled it with water, then I heard a noise in the stand like it couldn't handle the pressure, so I immediately dumped the water out and now am just going to temporarily put the tank on the floor until I figure something out.

    I had a feeling that the stand was pure garbage...

    Thanks to the first replier to this post who mentioned the "common sense theory" that if you have to question a stand to NOT use it.

    Tanks are very heavy and your going to need something that can safely support it...

    I blame the makers of these tanks for not making proper stands made out of oak or maple, instead of pine or worse particle board; which is nothing but sawdust, glue and staples...
     
  18. Danjamesdixon

    Danjamesdixon Well Known Member Member

    I used to make tanks and accompanying stands. My personal tank was a 22 gallon long with a stand made of Particle Board. Put it this way - the stand outlived the tank. 90% of all modern aquarium companies, including the premium brands like Juwel, use particle based composites.

    Wood creaks and groans as strain is placed upon it. So long as the pressure is even and applied consistently, even lighter and lower quality particle based composites are more than capable of mid-heavy load bearing.
     
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    CichlidLover5 New Member Member

    Sorry, but I'm not buying your post.

    Particle-board based stands are not capable of withstanding 100-200 gallon tanks much less a 55 gallon.

    Many people realize this now...

    Your claim is unsubstantiated!

    Plus, a store manager at Petsmart admitted to me that these stands are not that good and that I should seek out a quality piece of furniture.

    Do it yourself particle board-based stands come apart as you are putting them together and you teally think they are safe?
     
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  20. Danjamesdixon

    Danjamesdixon Well Known Member Member

    ...you don't have to buy my post. Neither was I attempting to "substantiate" any claims.

    I know I built the stand out of particle board, and I know it held the tank for the years I cared for that set up. I'm just trying to point out that the integrity of an aquarium stand is just as much about the design as it is about the material. In fact, that goes for the design of just about anything.
     




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