Veil Angel, Raggedy Caudal Fin

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I purchased a Veil Angelfish (silver with black stripes) from my LFS 2-1/2 weeks ago, and his caudal fin was pretty raggedy. I have him in my quarantine tank and have been treating the tank with Melafix. His fin is looking better, but I'm anxious to move him into my display tank. The photos of Veil Angels I've seen online all have raggedy caudal fins as well. Is this normal for this type of fish? Is it okay if I go ahead an move him to my display tank?
 

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I QT for 6 weeks. The longer you can wait the better in my opinion. Especially if you're attached to your fish you already have. Ultimately it's up to you though
 

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I just googled them and some are very ragged.
Mine aren't, but they are not as neat as shorter finned angels.
They are easily damaged.

I agree with using Melafix, great for soothing anxious fish, with mild anti-fungal and anti-bacterial properties.

It's always a gamble introducing new fish.
In 1-2 weeks most contagions would be apparent already.
Personally, I would move him but I totally respect Valerie's cautious advice to wait 6 weeks.
I would do another treatment of Melafix in my main tank to settle him in.
 

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Show us a pic before you resort to anything else.

I am embarrassed to admit I didn't realize the tail was called a caudal fin.

Anyway, there is such a thing as "comb tail veil tails" and they look ragged naturally. Not all veil tails should look raggedy, but for them it is natural.
 

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maybe good advice maybe bad advice here:

my angel's fin was raggedy because another angel (now rehomed) was nipping it constantly if you have other fish maybe make sure nothing it biting it if it looks "raggidy-er" than the pics you see online
 
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Addie42 said:
maybe good advice maybe bad advice here:

my angel's fin was raggedy because another angel (now rehomed) was nipping it constantly if you have other fish maybe make sure nothing it biting it if it looks "raggidy-er" than the pics you see online
He's been in quarantine since I purchased him 2-1/2 weeks ago, but could have been nipped at by his tank mates at the LFS. I'll definitely keep an eye on things after I introduce him to my display tank.
 

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mossman said:
He's been in quarantine since I purchased him 2-1/2 weeks ago, but could have been nipped at by his tank mates at the LFS. I'll definitely keep an eye on things after I introduce him to my display tank.
I'd love to see a pic before you get too concerned.
 
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I'm not currently at home, but will snap a photo and post it tomorrow.
 

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mossman said:
I'm not currently at home, but will snap a photo and post it tomorrow.
In the mean time google:

Combtail angelfish

and tell me what you think.
 

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They have definitely been munched by someone. His analfin is quite reduced in size.
But they are growing back just fine.
He looks to be thriving!
Is he eating well? My rescued angels are always ravenous!
 

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Ya, that's definitely damage.

As long as the tips don't start looking white you're good. They'll recover.

Best and fastest way to regrow fins....lots and lots and lots of water changes!
 
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I did a water change last night. The water was surprisingly dirty. I believe it is from the rock ornament I put in the tank last week. It had some dead algae on it, and ever since it has been in there (I removed it several days ago), clumps of light brown matter have been showing up on the bottom of the tank. Coincidentally, the fish has not been eating since the day I put the ornament in there. My best guess is he's been eating the algae. He used to do after food as soon as I dropped it in. Now he ignores it..

I also noticed just recently that his left pectoral fin is clamped against his body the majority of the time, and is also much smaller than his right fin. He was in a small tank with five other angels at the LFS, so evidently there was a good amount of nipping going on.
 

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Fin clamping is not a good sign. And angels would not be eating algae rather than the food you are providing.

It sounds like your fish was beat up pretty bad. All the fins are damaged and fin clamping is not a good sign.

If it were me I would do small daily water changes until the fins recover and the fish gets their appetite back.

When was the last time you tested your water?
 
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bizaliz3 said:
Fin clamping is not a good sign. And angels would not be eating algae rather than the food you are providing.

It sounds like your fish was beat up pretty bad. All the fins are damaged and fin clamping is not a good sign.

If it were me I would do small daily water changes until the fins recover and the fish gets their appetite back.

When was the last time you tested your water?
Its just the left fin. The right fin is never clamped. I assume it is because the left doesn't do much since it is so small.

I'll definitely do more frequent water changes. I've been adding Melafix every day, which is why I haven't been doing them more frequently then once per week.

I test it occasionally and the levels are always good. He's been clamping his left fin since the day I got him.
 

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Even with good water quality, there is no better medicine for damaged fins than water changes. And I mean like daily water changes. Or every two days at least. Regardless of your water quality. You don't even need to be using melafix or anything like that. Just lots and lots and lots of water changes!!
 

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I like to add more capatta leaves when I see a problem with my soft water fish. That and increase water changes to daily or at least every other day is my first course of action as others have said. Do you happen to have any IALs? (Indian Almond Leaves or Capatta leaves)
 
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angelcraze said:
Do you happen to have any IALs? (Indian Almond Leaves or Capatta leaves)
Haha, no. I do not.

Just ordered a package. They'll arrive tomorrow
 

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I think if he is not eating well, keep him in quarantine.
I doubt he is contagious but he needs some respite.
I reckon he is just bruised and battered, emotionally as well as physically.

I think fish do well in company. Do you have a friendly molly or zebra danio, to stimulate his appetite?
(lol, I mean watching them eat will make him eat...)
Also, my angels go crazy for frozen brine shrimp.
I have one 'sensitive soul' who won't chase food, it has to be delivered with an exciting squirt and swish of the feeding pipette right in front of him. (reminds me of feeding seahorses)
THEN he gobbles eagerly...
 

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