Urgent! Is Jungle brand Ich Clear or Kordon Rapid Cure safe for my sensitive betta?

All petstores in my area are out of any ich treatment. I just noticed the ich today. I want to heat treat him but I can't find an adjustable heater in stores. Should I wait and order a heater and Ich X or will waiting be too harmful? Should I take my chances with these brands? I don't want a dead fish.

 

Both should be fine, I personally would trust Kordon over Jungle just because I know several of their other products are really good.

 

One option is to forgoe the medicine entirely for now and use aquarium salt instead. If your pet stores somehow don't have any, kosher salt/pickling salt works. But I can't imagine the stores don't have aquarium salt. Even my mega ghetto local Walmart sells it.

It takes much longer than the medicine but it does work in many cases, especially if you notice early on. Go to google and look up "Ich salt treatment" you'll find guides and posts that explain the method far better than I ever could.

 

One option is to forgoe the medicine entirely for now and use aquarium salt instead. If your pet stores somehow don't have any, kosher salt/pickling salt works. But I can't imagine the stores don't have aquarium salt. Even my mega ghetto local Walmart sells it.

It takes much longer than the medicine but it does work in many cases, especially if you notice early on. Go to google and look up "Ich salt treatment" you'll find guides and posts that explain the method far better than I ever could.

I considered salt treatment, but I didn't want to harm the plants. I'm ordering some treatment online, I've already left the store. My boy is going to have to hold on for a few days. Thanks anyway!

 

Ah, I didn't know you had plants. In the meantime, keep his water nice and clean and give him good food!

 

Ah, I didn't know you had plants. In the meantime, keep his water nice and clean and give him good food!

I'm going to gravel vac it daily. He is still eating well and seems to be active, but I'm worried his movements are from stress. I just got him a few weeks ago and the poor guy has been through alot. Can you reccomend an adjustable heater for a 2.5 tank? I'm trying to find one that won't cook him. I only have a Top Fin heater but it won't get up to the 86 degrees that I need it to.

 

I'm going to gravel vac it daily. He is still eating well and seems to be active, but I'm worried his movements are from stress. I just got him a few weeks ago and the poor guy has been through alot. Can you reccomend an adjustable heater for a 2.5 tank? I'm trying to find one that won't cook him. I only have a Top Fin heater but it won't get up to the 86 degrees that I need it to.

I unfortunately can't give any suggestions as I don't keep small tanks. But heres a list I found that might help. 3 Best small aquarium heaters for tiny tanks 1 – 10 gallons (20+ Tested)

 

this answer might be too late to matter. but I think I would use my amozon prime to get 2 day shipping for the heater. If you are going to use meds use something better then that, maybe Kordon's Rid-Ich+.

Pick heat or meds, not both. but consider getting a good adjustable heater either way. you will probobly want a digital thermometer to use the heat method unless the heater has digital readings.

 

this answer might be too late to matter. but I think I would use my amozon prime to get 2 day shipping for the heater. If you are going to use meds use something better then that, maybe Kordon's Rid-Ich+.

Pick heat or meds, not both. but consider getting a good adjustable heater either way. you will probobly want a digital thermometer to use the heat method unless the heater has digital readings.

I am going with the Amazon Prime thing to get my heater quickly. I've heard that you must do both heat and med treatment. Can I do the heat and if that doesn't work should I do the meds? I hear that heat treatments work but then I also hear that they don't work. It's all so confusing and I just want my fish safe.

 

Why do you say that your betta is sensative? is something wrong with him? or are you emphasizing that bettas are sensative?

The ich meds you mentioned just now should both be ok, if you use the proper amount for the size tank. No, you do not to use both heat and meds. heat, medicine, and salt are 3 differnt ways to treat ich, bettas are sensitive to salt, so that one is out. all fish will get a littly bit sick from medicine, bettas are in general are hardy species.

Heat treatment is about as likly to work as meds. unfortunately, ich is a bad disese and not alll fish will recover from it. Medicine fore treating ich can kill a fish all on its own. the benefit of the heat is that it is less hard on fish.

any treatment will take the same amount of time 10-14 days until white spots are gone. all that any treatment can do is kill invisible baby ich and prevent further infection.

 

Why do you say that your betta is sensative? is something wrong with him? or are you emphasizing that bettas are sensative?

The ich meds you mentioned just now should both be ok, if you use the proper amount for the size tank. No, you do not to use both heat and meds. heat, medicine, and salt are 3 differnt ways to treat ich, bettas are sensitive to salt, so that one is out. all fish will get a littly bit sick from medicine, bettas are in general are hardy species.

Heat treatment is about as likly to work as meds. unfortunately, ich is a bad disese and not alll fish will recover from it. Medicine fore treating ich can kill a fish all on its own. the benefit of the heat is that it is less hard on fish.

any treatment will take the same amount of time 10-14 days until white spots are gone. all that any treatment can do is kill invisible baby ich and prevent further infection.

I called him sensitive because he is going through a lot right now with a tank cycling and a new environment. I supposed he is actually very strong since he has survived the chaos but he is already so stressed right now I don't want to push him anymore than I have to.

I'll use the heat treatment. The ich is only barely visible on the tail and it looks to be in an early stage. Hopefully in the next few days I'll set up the heater and he will be okay.

 

Yes, hope he will be ok!
be aware that the white spots are likly to get worse even after you start treatment. the invisible baby ich called tomites, are invincible after they have attached themselves to a host fish. they will live out there life span as long as the host fish is alive. Treatment for ich kills baby ich before it can attach, and or makes them too sick to attach. and treatments also speed up the life cycle of the ich to 10-14 days. but keep in mind that just because the spots on the fish get worse, dose not mean that treatment is not helping.

 

Yes, hope he will be ok!
be aware that the white spots are likly to get worse even after you start treatment. the invisible baby ich called tomites, are invincible after they have attached themselves to a host fish. they will live out there life span as long as the host fish is alive. Treatment for ich kills baby ich before it can attach, and or makes them too sick to attach. and treatments also speed up the life cycle of the ich to 10-14 days. but keep in mind that just because the spots on the fish get worse, dose not mean that treatment is not helping.

Yes, I've researched the life cycle and stuff. Ill keep all of that in mind during the next few weeks. Thank you for your help!

 

Yes, hope he will be ok!
be aware that the white spots are likly to get worse even after you start treatment. the invisible baby ich called tomites, are invincible after they have attached themselves to a host fish. they will live out there life span as long as the host fish is alive. Treatment for ich kills baby ich before it can attach, and or makes them too sick to attach. and treatments also speed up the life cycle of the ich to 10-14 days. but keep in mind that just because the spots on the fish get worse, dose not mean that treatment is not helping.

Sorry, but I just thought of something. Will a heat treatment work in a small 2.5 gal tank? Won't the tomites find him quicker?

 

I don't see how that would make a difference. The heat will kill the tomites, and or make them too week to attach to a host. But I don't want you to make the decision for you. you could lose your fish either way and it is a hard desition to make.

 

I don't see how that would make a difference. The heat will kill the tomites, and or make them too week to attach to a host. But I don't want you to make the decision for you. you could lose your fish either way and it is a hard desition to make.

Is the heat really that dangerous for my betta? I thought it would be the easiest on him rather than the meds. Is the risk really that high that he may die from a gradual temperature change to 86 degrees F?

 

No the heat is fine, bettas like it hotter then the average tropical fish. The risk of using heat treatment is that there is a strain of ich out there that can withstand higher temperature. The other broblem is oxygen, the higher the temp, the less oxygen in the water. The oxygen thing should be less of a problem for a betta however, as they are anabantoid fish and use there labrynth organ to breath from the water surface.
you may want to read this article if you haven't alreay.
Treating Ich With Medication and No Heat Will Lower Stress - Biotope One