Unknown hole in gourami

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Hi!

Noticed symmetric holes above the mouth of 1 of my 8 gourami today. He is pretty much fully grown, 2-3 years old, and acts normal. However, he has 2 "large" holes right above his mouth (kinda looks like a 2nd mouth, or a nose). He also has 4 (2 on each side) small holes between his mouth and upper fin.

Is this normal? He is my largest gourami, so might be something they get when maturing. Can't see the same holes on any of the other ones though. Worried it might be Hole-in-the-Head, but seems unlikely. The holes are symmetrical. I do waterchanges every 6-8 days, about 30-40% each time. The tank is avg. stocked, and 125 gallons. Feedings about 4-5 days per week, normal amounts and decent mix of foods. Never had issues with ammonia nor nitrites.

Video linked. Pretty visible.

EDIT: Not running carbon. Just two biological external filters. Good filtration.


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Almost looks like it's his jaw or something. Pretty visible around the middle of the video.
Anybody seen something like this? Could it be "Hole in the Head"? :/
 
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DoubleDutch said:
Could it be he jawlocked with another male ? Doesn't look like HITH to me.
You mean his jaw is dislocated/bit?
Doesn't really look like a wound. Kinda like a second mouth above his upper lip. Also one of the two holes on either side (smaller holes) I think are normal, the other gourami have one there as well. But odd that he has two there.

How does it differ from HITH?

He seems really normal, so not doing any medicating/extra WC's atm. Gave them a different mix of food today, will do so a few more days, incase it's a deficiency.

Thanks for any info you guys can share, I'm at a complete loss here >_<
 

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eligri said:
You mean his jaw is dislocated/bit?
Doesn't really look like a wound. Kinda like a second mouth above his upper lip. Also one of the two holes on either side (smaller holes) I think are normal, the other gourami have one there as well. But odd that he has two there.

How does it differ from HITH?

He seems really normal, so not doing any medicating/extra WC's atm. Gave them a different mix of food today, will do so a few more days, incase it's a deficiency.

Thanks for any info you guys can share, I'm at a complete loss here >_<
No, but by this way of fighting it could have ripped his lip that way.

Hole in the head often starts higher up the head and starts with with white craters in the head.
 
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DoubleDutch said:
No, but by this way of fighting it could have ripped his lip that way.

Hole in the head often starts higher up the head and starts with with white craters in the head.
Hmm, gotcha. Well, he shares the tank with 7 other gourami's and a rather large oscar. Couldn't be the oscar, he would be a lot more damaged then. Guess another gourami messed with him.

Anything I can do other than normal weekly WC's and regular feeding schedule?

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eligri said:
Hmm, gotcha. Well, he shares the tank with 7 other gourami's and a rather large oscar. Couldn't be the oscar, he would be a lot more damaged then. Guess another gourami messed with him.

Anything I can do other than normal weekly WC's and regular feeding schedule?

Thanks
Keep an eye on it (beware for infection) and indeed normal things.
 
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DoubleDutch said:
Keep an eye on it (beware for infection) and indeed normal things.
What do you think of the 2nd set of holes below the usual "side holes"? Maybe just a slight mutation or something?
 

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