type of filter for cichlids

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I'm researching cichlids and their care, and came across this website:

http://cichlidadvice.com/

It says canister filters are required for cichlids since you have to pack a lot of them in the tank. Is this true? I have 2 HOB filters I plan to use for my 55 when it's time to set it up (Aquatech 30-60 w/ 330gph, AquaClear 50 w/ 200gph; altogether 530gph), and I don't really want to spend such a high price on a filter when I already have these two.

So, is it required to use canisters for a cichlid tank? Or are my two filters enough? I will not even attempt cichlids if my filters are not ideal.
 

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Canister filters are not required for cichlids but they do an excellent job of keeping a tank clear. Some cichlids, Discus in particular, do best in tanks without canisters because canisters trap food and other organic materials. Being so sensitive to water params, Discus don't like the degrading material in the canister. They seem to not be able to tolerate it as well as other fish.
That sounds like canisters are horrible lol. But in reality they are great filters! I love them. But best to stick to simpler methods of filtration when dealing with sensitive fish.
 
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Ah, I see! Thank you for that information! Would you say cichlids need more than 10x turnover for gph, considering how many per tank there are? I'd love to try my hand at cichlids, just need to do more research
 

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A 10x turnover is a pretty good for most cichlids. More filtration the better. Course if you try larger fish you'll need better filters. If you are willing to spend $50 or so you could get a really nice canister to add to that! I'll dig up the link if you want to look at it.
 
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Oh I didn't realize there were canisters for that price, the only ones I've found were $100+! I'd love to see the link if you can find it
 

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consider that the rated gallon per hour on those filters you mention will be a lot less once you put the filter cartridge in. filters are rated empty and most are over rated. that's why you see some filters 150 gph that say up to forty gallon and another might say 200 up to 30gal
 
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oh I actually never realized that, but it makes sense. But then maybe that's why the general rule is 8-10x turnover, to accommodate the diminished gph? Not trying to say it like you're wrong, just something I thought of when I read your post haha
 

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Here is the one I bought.

I normally try to get around 12-15x turnover just to accommodate the fact that my filters can't pump as much when they are full as when they are empty. Course you don't have to do that. I'm a bit crazy about getting over filtration, especially since I tend to stock heavily.
 
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