Tying java fern

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I currently have a java fern tied to a piece of decorative wood using fishing line. It's a very loose tie and the plant is semi floating in the water. Is that ok, or does it need to be tied very tight? I only have a 10g, so I have very small rock and wood in there.
 

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I would try to get it at least snug so the plant has a chance to grab on, if its always moving imo it'd be difficult for it to root to the object. Have fun with your fern.
 

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It's difficult to tie a knot by yourself without someone assisting to hold the first knot while you tie the second. There's probably a knot that can be done by a single person such as a noose, but I just ended up using small, black rubber bands to hold my plants down. They dissolve and break down over time; no issues with that in my tanks. I try to remove pieces that are visible when I can. By that point, the roots have grabbed the object, but they tend to be barely hanging on also. I use porous rocks that resemble limestone though, so they don't grab that well. Perhaps driftwood would be more ideal.
 

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If you can't tie the knot by yourself I have used the lead plant weights that come in strips for this purpose as well and they're very easy to bend around the "base" you're putting the fern on.
 

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In this picture of my 15g you can see how I wrapped the plant weight around the branch, this was about a month or so ago, now the fern is firmly attached.
 
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That helps, thanks. I will try to get a 2nd pair of hands to tie it tightly. How long do you think it takes for the plant to firmly grab onto the piece without any weights, just fishing line or rubber band? Did yours take a full month?
 

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I wasn't trying to pull it off periodically so I'm not sure, probably anywhere from a few weeks to a month.
With the fishing line, be careful of tying too tightly and slicing into the rhizome.

Cotton thread can also be used fo this purpose and it will disintegrate over time.
 

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Matt do you have any problems with it being lead? I know lead is bad for humans but have you had any problems with it in your tanks?
 

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I know, it sounds counter-intuitive to put lead in. I always have and never had a problem that I'm aware of, also the packaging for the weights states aquarium safe. Even though water is the universal solvent, I think its okay because lead doesn't dissolve easily or tarnish/rust. I would imagine the small amount of lead that is dispersed is never even close to being a dangerous level due to pwcs.
 

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True true I just remember people coming out to make sure we didn't have lead water pipes that could make us sick. Bet I am showing my age now though!
 
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