Two Different Types Of Tree Frogs Together? Question

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    Hey, it's been awhile!
    I just found two Grey's Tree Frogs in my backyard umbrella, I've kept these guys in the past and have always released them around a year later, back to where I found them.
    These guys I found today are babies, so I want to keep them as long as I can. I have all of the right supplies and a nice home for them.
    Alright, now to my actual point! I always wanted a different type of tree frog, like a White's Tree frog, can I successfully keep the two I have and a White's together? Or are there any other types that would get along better? I like variety.
    Thanks in advance!
     
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    I wouldn't recommend it. First off, the tree frogs you've found came from the wild, meaning they could be carrying potentially dangerous diseases, that could harm whites tree frogs.
    Secondly, Greys and Whites aren't from the same natural habitat, meaning they'll require different care (temps, humidity, etc) Grays come from America and Canada, Whites come from tropical Australia and Indonesia - a big difference!
    Finally, Whites tree frogs get to over twice the size of a greys tree frogs, and whites will eat anything and everything that can fit int heir mouth. You get a whites tree frog, your greys will vanish pretty quickly, especially if they're babies.

    Another thing to consider is how big is your cage? As they are tree frogs, you'll require more vertical space than horizontal.

    Introducing two species together usually proves disastrous. Frogs may become cannibalistic and eat others of the same species. Housing different species together can also result in disease because of parasites, it's generally not recommended. However, there's no reason you can't keep whites in a separate cage!

    Of course, you could probably keep a newt in there, if the cage is large enough and you're willing to provide a large water section. Depends on the size of the cage.
     
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    The cage I have the Grey's in is a 5 gallon average tank. I know it should be taller, but since I just found them today I just used what I had on hand. It would be great if I could keep them together, but you have very good points.

    I would love to keep White's in a separate tank, but right now I don't have the room for another cage (I already have 1 hamster, 2 bunnies, 2 frogs, a ten gal fish tank, a 2 gal betta tank, and finally a 30 gal Axolotl tank!)(not counting my dog, as I see her more as a family member) wow when you write it out it sounds like a zoo! But I can promise you they are all getting the care and love they need! And it's not as much as it sounds! (Oh yeah, I'm also considering buying a horse! Wish me luck on that lol)

    So I doubt I could fit a Newt into that tank..
    Thank you for all of that info! I appreciate it very much!!

    Also, just curious, what pets do you have?
     
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    Yeah, don't think a newt will work
    Probably just stick to the greys in a 5 gal, any other froggies probably won't work.
    Wowee, is your axolotl in your profile pic? I'd love to see the tank.

    Highly recommend a horse - I ride and having your own horse to work on and manage that you understand and know on a personal level is amazing.

    I personally also have quite the zoo - A dog, a cat, a horse, a mini cow, a betta, 2 goldfish (in a pond tho - no maintenance!) 3 whites tree frogs, 3 ducks and a Bearded dragon.
    You never really realise how many until you list it out, huh?
    Overall, there are like 23 animals on our property, but these are the ones I'm responsible for and technically own.
    I guess because they're not chores but more like companions so I don't really notice the hours that go into them.

    A bit off topic, but what's it like owning a hamster? I've never seen one in real life, they're illegal in Australia.
     
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    Yes that is my axolotl in my profile pic! That was when he (Monty) was still in a ten gallon tank, but that tank cracked at 3a.m. so it spilled everywhere on my floor lol! So he's now in the 30 gallon, I'll put the picture of the tank in a different post

    I'm thinking maybe getting a foal, to try and bond with it on a bigger level than you would bond with an older horse? I take riding/care lessons from a lady who I meet while I was working at my local zoo. I think I'll work at a stable close to me so I can get cheaper boarding, since we don't own enough land for a horse. But I'm looking for horses and hopefully it will work out!

    Wow! Your animals sound like a lot of fun to care for! I wish I had enough land for all of that

    Hamsters are probably one of the easiest animals to own actually! Mine is in a ten gallon tank (the one my axolotl used to be in, so I just taped up the crack and gave it her) I only have to feed her once a day at night, clean her tank once a week, and give her some attention. I've been really lucky with how kind my hamsters have been, I've heard some not so good stories from other (probably not experienced) hamster owners. They can be really sweet though if you know what your doing! She's a Campbells Russian dwarf hamster named Nova!

    I'll put pictures in a separate post!
     
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    Here are the pics of my pets!
    Monty and his tank, Nova and her's, Isabell and Noah (bunnies) playing outside, ten gal tropical, Dakota (black lab), betta, and frogs! 20190615_074357.20190615_074401.20190615_074152.Snapchat-1318660163.Snapchat-1486495638.20190611_141718.Snapchat-1869938855.20190615_074213.20190615_074148.
     
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    Your tropical 10 gal is incredible! It's so beautiful. Nova's really cute, so are the bunnies
    How old is your lab? I love chocolate labs.
    I really like your frog tank. Live planted is so much better than artificial imo. If you ever get the chance to add a few more branches or things to climb on, the frogs will appreciate it (being free frogs)
    Here's some photos of my baby beardie, my betta and my horse. And also my cow because he's amazing.

    Btw, I think the idea of raising a foal is awesome. My sister raised a yearling and loved it.
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    Thank you so much!
    My lab is 12 years old, and such a sweet and funny dog!
    I will add some branches soon, but right now I'm having a hard time getting them interested in eating... So if it comes down to it, I may have to release them back to where I found them. Maybe if that happens I could get a White's or a green tree frog instead?

    You're beardie is so cute! And the betta has very pretty fins.
    And you're horse is stunning! That's such a cool shot!
    The cow is adorable, it must be so fun to take care of those kinds of animals! Such a variety.
     
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    I highly recommend a whites! They always smile and they're so chubby, with tonnes of personality. However, they won't fit in a 5 gal. It's recommended to have a minimum of 10 gal, but I personally think at least a 20 gal for two frogs. My adult whites is in a 60 gal and uses all of it, but my juveniles in a 30 gal still have plenty of space. I'll post photos of their setups later.

    What are you feeding the frogs right now?
     
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    Yes I live how cute they are! Would one White's fit in the 5 temporarily? And yeah I'd love to see yours!

    I'm just trying to feed them freeze dried crickets, I cut them up so they are smaller for them, but they have no interest. They were from when I had the other Grey's a year ago, she was a lot bigger though, and had noticable personality. These little dudes are about the size of the pad of your thumb, and I thought, obviously they ate while they where in my backyard/wooded area and so I might let them go. I just don't want them to die because of me, even unintentional, still.
     
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    An adult whites definitely wouldn't fit in a 5 gal. These guys get up to 10cm big. A juvenile may, but even so they're still usually 4-5cm, so it's a squeeze. You can keep them in a clear storage tub with holes drilled in the lid for an inexpensive enclosure.

    A reason they may not be eating is because the insects aren't alive. My frogs only eat live Food, because it's fresh and the movement attracts them. You could buy live crickets at a pet store, a size small would fit these guys. But, it may simply be relocation stress. It's your call.
     
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    ok, that makes sense, or I might wait for Petco to do they're dollar per gallon sale.

    Alright, you're probably right, I think right now it's probably the safer bet to let them go. I always feel guilty taking them from the wild, you know? Especially because when I was little and lived here, around every fourth of July, I would set out the kitty pool and catch like thirty toads, and leopard frogs! After a while I always let them go, but I don't want them to get mowed either! But now I don't do that anymore ... It's really sad, because so far all year this year, I've seen no toads or leopard frogs.. only these two tree frogs.

    I'll look for some cheap tanks and hopefully will find something that would work good. But on the other hand I don't think my family would be too thrilled that I want another tank in my room lol! But we'll see.
     
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    Haha yeah I get it. My family is always complaining about my tanks. Here's a photo of my adult whites tank: 1560665335426.
     
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    That is amazing! I love how you decorated that. When I get White's your going to have to show me how to do that lol!
     
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    Aha thanks! Sure thing, will do.
     
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