Trichogaster Lalius - Dwarf Gourami Common Names And Mix Up ?

So I've been getting in a little deeper on specifics in dwarf gouramis and while researching I stopped in my tracks. All this time I thought I had a dwarf flame gourami but now I'm like 90% sure that my male is a trichogaster lalius not the flame color with no stripes. This honestly went over my head but is it true?
In most lighting he does look all orange but then hes a at certain angle and hes mostly blue with orange stripes and tail finnage and then blue face. Its hard to tell if its trichogaster lalius a different coloration
(Will post pics and/or video in edit, computer is being funky)





He knows when I'm trying to take his picture lol hes a funny little guy

 

The first fish is the original dwarf gourami, or at least a captive-for-generations version that is very close to it.

I’m not actually sure what you’re asking??

The other is also a dwarf gourami... a man-made colour variety.

 

The first fish is the original dwarf gourami, or at least a captive-for-generations version that is very close to it.

I’m not actually sure what you’re asking??

The other is also a dwarf gourami... a man-made colour variety.

its the same fish lol. just different lighting.

I mean like the color name. I thought it was a coloration is called the "flame" or "red" like this picture (this is just an example, which I know is a common name) See how there is no stripes? I know its the same fish but I'm asking if the color types have a name? Like "flame" or "neon blue" or "powder blue" as another example. I literally cannot tell the different other than a flame doesn't have stripes and neon blues and powder blues do (talking in terms of color) and yet they are sold by color being its the same fish.

 

Natural (at least in that direction)

 

Natural (at least in that direction)

Okay so this isn't a man made color?

dang it they took the off stupid copyright

 

Oh ok, I thought the other was a ‘flame gourami’.

Yes yours is the ‘natural version’.

The different varieties are different colours. The ‘flame’ doesn’t have the stripes, the ‘neon blue’ has more blue and less red... etc

 

Man, am I out of date! I read the thread title and didn't know what you were talking about...I am from the era when the Dwarf Gourami was Colisa lalia. It came in two varieties: male and female.

Trichogaster was at that time the genus for the larger gouramis like the Pearl, T.leeri. So it seems that now they have moved the Dwarf to the genus Trichogaster...but why did the specific name need to be changed from lalia to lalius?

Whenever a taxonomist says that the scientific nomenclature is used to avoid confusion, so that everyone is talking about the same thing...I laugh...

 

Man, am I out of date! I read the thread title and didn't know what you were talking about...I am from the era when the Dwarf Gourami was Colisa lalia. It came in two varieties: male and female.

LOL. Ahh the good old days.

The others are now Trichopodus, presumably (no time to check) because the type species was originally Trichopodus and the name has been found to be still valid.

The genus name (Trichogaster) is masculine, so the specific name must also be masculine. Hence lalia becomes lalius.

 

Man, am I out of date! I read the thread title and didn't know what you were talking about...I am from the era when the Dwarf Gourami was Colisa lalia. It came in two varieties: male and female.

Trichogaster was at that time the genus for the larger gouramis like the Pearl, T.leeri. So it seems that now they have moved the Dwarf to the genus Trichogaster...but why did the specific name need to be changed from lalia to lalius?

Whenever a taxonomist says that the scientific nomenclature is used to avoid confusion, so that everyone is talking about the same thing...I laugh...

Love it. I mean I'm totally talking about the same fish and I was reading someones post somewhere mentioning Colisa lalia and I was like WAAAATTT?? I didn't even know that Trichogaster was not originally the dwarfs. All I can say is I was totally ignorant when I bought him in terms of colors not being a different type of dwarf but are in fact the same fish other than coloration varieties. I need a snickers.

 

Okay so this isn't a man made color?

dang it they took the off stupid copyright

I think there is a bit to much blue in this one but is more or less the natural type

 

You mean a Marathon?

I remember when most cichlids were Cichlasoma....

 

The genus name (Trichogaster) is masculine, so the specific name must also be masculine. Hence lalia becomes lalius.

I did not know that...thanks!

I should have realized that every arbitrary rule of taxonomy would be subject to all the other arbitrary rules...

 

You mean a Marathon?

I remember when most cichlids were Cichlasoma....

And were found in BOOKS