Too much aeration?

I was reading somewhere that air pumps blowing air into tanks can cause gas bubbles inside fish in a condition similair to "the bends" (I think that's what it's called) that divers get when they resurface too quickly. Apparently it has something to do with a pressure difference inside and outside the tank. The article made it sound like too much aeration could cause this. Unfortunately it wasn't very specific.

Is it possible to have too much aeration?

-B

 

Not on the systems we use.
You would need to be pumping pure O2 under high pressure to get any super saturation.
I asked the same thing last year.
The bends- nitrogen that expand into bubbles as a diver rises to quickly.
It a longer story than one line.... but has nothing to do with the fish in the tanks.
Most gas bubble problems with fish come from bad water and bacteria/infections.

If you have seen a protein skimmer working, then you would see how many bubbles they make, and people who run skimmers have no issues with O2

 

Aha, just what I needed to know. Thanks!

 

Is it possible to have too much air in a betta tank? I'm not sure how big the container is, its bigger then most betta bowls but I have a pump and airstone now that's fit for 5 gallon.

Is too much air bad for the fish?

 

If you have a Betta in a small container that'll kill it rather then too much air. Betta's are labyrinth fish they can breathe air.

 

The fall from an HOB would probably be enough for a betta in a 5g. I wouldn't be worried so much about the air itself but rather the turbulence it can create.

 

He doesn't have HOB or filter yet, we just do frequent water changes, that's why for now I put in a airstone. its not a overly small container. its a decent size I just don't know if too much air will kill it or harm it, there isent a lot of turbulence as I have the airstone in a corner

 

Make sure to get him a 5 gallon soon. Its not good to have a Betta in a container. They need a filter/heater. The airstone might bother him if its in a smaller space. There is no such thing as over oxygenating.

 

just have to watch the betta and see if its having problems swimming. if so then its to much. is this for just a air stone or a sponge filter? in my opinion anything less then 2.5 gallons is to small of a betta. should also be heated and filtered.

I think a sponge filter is enough for a betta, no reason to get a HOB for a 5g.

 

I think the one hes in is a 2.5 gallon. hes got lots of swimming space and doesn't have trouble swiming around. I would like him to have a filter but right now he doesn't. hes got a real nice fake plant and everything =P I just wanted to at least have some movement of water for him but wasent sure if there was sucha thing as too much

Edit : its smaller then my 5.5g quarantine tank I have so I know its not a 5g

 

Well just a second reminder. Get him a filter/heater.

Even if you do a lot of water changes ammonia builds up in practically less then 6 hours. Doing water changes every 6 hours is stressful for the fish and impossible for you.

 

Yeah I test my waters and the ammonia in there doesn't actually get bad surprisingly, in my house for some reason its hot inside today I had to turn off the heaters in my other tanks because it got up to 88degrees... I was like oh gosh noo! but yes I want to get him in a filtered tank

 

get one of these little sponge filters for him. the smallest one should fit in the 2.5 nicely. if its a bowl it can make placing it more more difficult. make sure you watch for ammonia and nitrite in that small of a tank.

 

Fancy, I want one of those now lol

 

I have a whisper 10 on my 2.5g

 

I have a whisper 10 on my 2.5g

dang dude! 90 GPH on a 2.5?!

How a Elite MinI Filter with flow control:


maybe a bit strong, but in the reviews they put a sponge on the output

 

Try to get a 10g. Bettas seem to love 10 gallon

 

Try to get a 10g. Bettas seem to love 10 gallon

My boys use every inch of their entire 10 gallons.

 

I vote for the 10 gallon, too

 

That link matt posted earlier I have the #2 sponge filter on my betta tank...

 

I recently got a 20long. It came with a brand new aqueon quiet 30 filter. I have the water levels pretty close to the top but there's still a bunch of water crashing back into the tank. I think its causing too much aeration because the water is cloudy and there are tiny little specks that I'm assuming are bubbles floating around. The gravel is nat geo black gravel. Its half the size of normal gravel and bigger than sand. I rinsed it off well. Is there anyway to reduce the waterfall? Its also causing the water to evaporate quickly. I'm planning to add and breed cherry shrimp once its cycled.

 

Don't worry, your tank can't have too much aeration.
It's probably just an algae bloom, it happens to new tanks a lot. If you want the water fall muffled or slower you can take some aquarium safe fabric or filter media and attach it to where the water comes out and let the other side dip into your tank water. The filtered water will flow down the material into the tank. I only do this if the filter is too loud, though.

 

In my experience, unless there's a lid on the tank, the water is going to evaporate anyway. Having a hood will at least keep in the evaporating water, condense it, and it'll fall back into the tank. As for the filter, the comment about aquarium safe material is probably your best bet. for one of my tanks I used a thin, abrasive scrub pad (well washed and free of any detergents) to dampen the flow but still allow water to pass through. I think you can buy a pack of 10 at walmart for 3-4 dollars.

 

With shrimp, adding a prefilter sponge to the intake of the filter can slow the flow a bit and keep your planned shrimps safe as well

 

With shrimp, adding a prefilter sponge to the intake of the filter can slow the flow a bit and keep your planned shrimps safe as well

Good Idea

 

Is there such thing as having too much aeration in a 60 gallon tank? I cirrently an cycling the tank but when I am dome I want to buy co2, a bubbler, and an air stone . I have the marineland 350 power filter,(though id love to have a canister filter instead) but I am not sure if all that is necessary .And what bubbler is best to get for a big aquarium or does that not matter?

Oh and an air pump since I forgot to imclide my main topic I'm there .Oops.

 

I've never heard of having too much aeration... not sure about the bubbler though

 

One should consider that too many sources of bubbles will increase the chance of a fish getting swim bladder disorder, as they will try to eat the bubbles.

 

One should consider that too many sources of bubbles will increase the chance of a fish getting swim bladder disorder, as they will try to eat the bubbles.

Great point! I didn't think of that!

 

If your going to add co2 then yes you can have too much airation. I wouldnt add a bubbler myself your filter should be enough

 

Is there such thing as having too much aeration in a 60 gallon tank? I cirrently an cycling the tank but when I am dome I want to buy co2, a bubbler, and an air stone . I have the marineland 350 power filter,(though id love to have a canister filter instead) but I am not sure if all that is necessary .And what bubbler is best to get for a big aquarium or does that not matter?

Oh and an air pump since I forgot to imclide my main topic I'm there .Oops.

Normally you shouldn’t have any aeration when you’re injecting Co2 into your tank. It’ll cause the Co2 to gas out but you can have it and turn it on during night, when the lights are off and the plants are taking in o2 and releasing Co2.

 

One should consider that too many sources of bubbles will increase the chance of a fish getting swim bladder disorder, as they will try to eat the bubbles.

Thank you for your helpful advice! I will make sure not to do over do it.

If your going to add co2 then yes you can have too much airation. I wouldnt add a bubbler myself your filter should be enough

So if you have a bubbler you don't need co2 ?

 

So if you have a bubbler you don't need co2 ?

No. Having a bubbler will gas off your co2 so you will waste co2. Your filter will generally add enough oxygen to a tank.

 

Discus-Tang I assume you are joking, any bubbles fish may want to eat pop long before actually being eaten...

Little fry babies there isn't really such thing as too much aeration.... although with fry (if you're asking for them) you may want to limit the amount of current.

Ideally, in every aquarium, you will have at least some sort of motion on 100% of the tank's water surface. Whether it be your filter, bubbles, or a pump.

 

Discus-Tang I assume you are joking, any bubbles fish may want to eat pop long before actually being eaten...

Little fry babies there isn't really such thing as too much aeration.... although with fry (if you're asking for them) you may want to limit the amount of current.

Ideally, in every aquarium, you will have at least some sort of motion on 100% of the tank's water surface. Whether it be your filter, bubbles, or a pump.

Not true. My guppies have eaten bubbles.

 

Thanks guys. I appreciate your help. there is always so much to learn from this hobby and to make sure its done accurately .It is overwhelming at times.

 

Not true. My guppies have eaten bubbles.

Interesting, I've never heard of this or read about it.... I'll look it up