three danios, now one!

  1. Matt Ireland Initiate Member

    I just purchased three danios today. I am a beginner. My tank has not been cycled. My LFS said that I needed to cycle my tank, they said that I should start with the danios. Are two of my three danios dead because the tank wasn't cycled? If so , how do I cycle my tank and get my fish to not die?

    The other fish I was going to add in were :

    Two Black Skirt Tetras

    1 Neon Orange Dwarf Crayfish

    Can fish die from a lack of oxygen? How do you make sure you have enough oxygen in your tank?
  2. Aquaphobia Fishlore Legend Member

    Hi Matt, welcome to the forum!

    Yes, you need to cycle your tank and yes, fish can die from lack of oxygen. More likely in your case though they died from ammonia poisoning. What is the size of your tank and what kind of filter are you running on it?
  3. Matt Ireland Initiate Member

    I am using a ten gallon tank with a Aqueon QuietFlow 10 I had to put a cut up piece of water bottle to reduce to outflow rate because it was blowing my danios all over the place!

    this is what my remaining danio is doing its been doing this for 4 hrs[​IMG]

    It is now dead :'(
  4. Aquaphobia Fishlore Legend Member

    I'm sorry for your loss:(

    Have you heard of a fishless cycle? That might be the better way to go to get your tank ready for fish!

    Have you decided what you want to stock it with?
  5. Matt Ireland Initiate Member

    I think I'm going to go with the neon dwarf crayfish two black skirt tetras and maybe more zebra danios How do I do a fishless cycle? Has my tank gone through the cycle now that I have had fish excrete waste in my tank?
  6. Kianoromitria Initiate Member

  7. Five 97 Well Known Member Member

  8. Matt Ireland Initiate Member

    what fish do you recommend that will go in a ten gallon with the crayfish?
  9. nanzey Member Member

    Personally I would recommend a fishless cycle. The fish that are hardy enough for cycling usually fall into the category of too big for a 10. (Experts please correct me if I'm wrong!)
    Also I would hold off on any sort of invertebrates until after you are cycled as they seem more sensitive.
    I did a fishless cycle using Prime as a water conditioner, Dr. Tim's ammonium chloride (dose 10 drops daily) as a clean ammonia source, and seachem stability daily for my beneficial bacteria. It was complete in about 3 weeks.
    Read up on the nitrogen cycle and save yourself a lot of heartache and money.

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  10. Bellatrix Member Member

    The tank is too small for those fish. In fact I've been told 10 gallons is too small for any fish.
  11. Sarah73 Fishlore VIP Member

    Hold up! That's not true. A beta is perfect for a 10gal:) their aren't a lot but there are some. Danios are not good for a 10gal. First because danios need to be in a group of 6+. Second they are very active and a 10gal restricts them from swimming very far.
  12. codyrex97 Well Known Member Member

    There's actually quite a few fish befitting a 10 gallon. There's a list around here somewhere :3 I remember a small group of guppies, different types of tetra and a single Betta were among the list, along with others. 10 gallon is actually a decent size for starters but not enough to quench the thirst of somebody that wants several species of schooling fish in one tank. This is why my 10 gallon is only for my Betta and I intend to get a 30 gallon or so for some schooling fish.
  13. Sarah73 Fishlore VIP Member

    10gal is for a beginner because it's smaller, but it's harder to take care of. The bigger the tank, the easier it is to keep clean and keep stable. For example if you spill some lets see chemicals in the tank. For a 10gal the chemicals would spread quicker than a 40gal or 20gal.
  14. Coradee Moderator Moderator Member

    Let's not get sidetracked, please address Matts questions & not each other.
  15. codyrex97 Well Known Member Member

    This is very true! And this is also why people recommend that if you're a starter get the biggest tank possible! But people usually shy away from big tanks because of the larger price even though the care is actually easier.
    I don't think I'd recommend fish in a 10 gallon with a cray. Somebody correct me if I'm wrong but I've heard of cray snapping fish, plus I believe that a 10 gallon is minimum for a crayfish by itself.
  16. Sarah73 Fishlore VIP Member

    A 20gal is the minimum for a crayfish. Now a dwarf crayfish you can have 2 in a 10gal. And yes you are right. If you don't feed the crayfish well enough each day they will start to pick your fish off one by one.
  17. codyrex97 Well Known Member Member

    In that case I'd recommend getting 2 dwarf cray! They're pretty silly little critters and very interesting to watch. I personally would say get 2 because,
    1. I wouldn't trust one around fish in case it was cranky or hungry one day.
    2. Wouldn't want it to get lonely!
  18. Sarah73 Fishlore VIP Member

    Lol yes they are silly little creatures. I am thinking about getting two myself, but this isn't about me. I agree that you can get 2 dwarf crayfish, but just make sure each has a cave to themselves.
  19. Five 97 Well Known Member Member

    Dwarf crayfish are fine in 10g imo, and will not hurt the other fish, also their are a few species of danios that can be kept in 10g, including; CPDs, emerald dwarf rasboras etc...