Thoughts On Catching Fish And Keeping Them For Your Aquarium?

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I've recently found a few youtube videos of people who go out, catch fish and keep them in their aquarium. I imagine this is quite controversial (maybe not I haven't fallen that deep into the topic)

I know there are fish that can only be caught in the wild and I own otocinclus where this is the case for the most part, it's also a way to get high priced fish practically for free though I'm interested in the ethical qualms many of you may have with this method
 

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I really don't care for freshwater. It brings economic growth to the area where the fish are sourced, and most fishermen are environmentally conscience since overharvesting and destruction of habitat would mean no income. I dislike how saltwater fish are sourced though, they are being decimated, ex. Phillipines,
 

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Ozzy said:
I've recently found a few youtube videos of people who go out, catch fish and keep them in their aquarium. I imagine this is quite controversial (maybe not I haven't fallen that deep into the topic)

I know there are fish that can only be caught in the wild and I own otocinclus where this is the case for the most part, it's also a way to get high priced fish practically for free though I'm interested in the ethical qualms many of you may have with this method
I don't have a problem with it, as long as you're not capturing endangered fish. It might not be legal where you are either.
 

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lots of stress for the fish, i assume. could cross-contaminate badly. im not doing it personally. its interesting in a way though, working with local species. but yeah overall not a fan.

*this is about private persons supplying themselves, not to be sold to fish stores.
 

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Fish that you catch could carry disease and hurt your other fish, and could be aggressive. I don't agree.
 
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How about for invasive species of fish you're supposed to kill upon capture? And if the aquarium is for fish you caught in the wild only wouldn't disease be easy to take care of? I'd never do this myself but I too think it's interesting in theory. Taking an animal out of a giant body of water and keeping it in a little box of water just doesn't sit right with me personally.
 

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Ozzy said:
Taking an animal out of a giant body of water and keeping it in a little box of water just doesn't sit right with me personally.
that too.
 

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Ozzy said:
How about for invasive species of fish you're supposed to kill upon capture? .
supposedly australia has a problem with a betta infestation, id love to study the population and pull the fishes out of there. dunno what id do with them though.
 
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supposedly australia has a problem with a betta infestation, id love to study the population and pull the fishes out of there. dunno what id do with them though.
Poor Australia they get all of the invasive species
 

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When I first started fishkeeping I thought wild caught fish was dumb and inmoral. Right now I would be willing to pay a bit more to get wild caught fish. The quality of wild caught fish cant be compared with the captive bred trash we are getting today.
I dislike some methods tho. Shooting cyanide in fish´s faces to capture them is not good.
 
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When I first started fishkeeping I thought wild caught fish was dumb and inmoral. Right now I would be willing to pay a bit more to get wild caught fish. The quality of wild caught fish cant be compared with the captive bred trash we are getting today.
I dislike some methods tho. Shooting cyanide in fish´s faces to capture them is not good.

Just assume you're a random joe with a fishing pole or net. I definitely agree with the poisoning but that's usually done to catch in bulk and sell off. I can see where you're coming from, the breeding scene in the retail department is very sketchy like most animals being sold in stores unfortunately.
 

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BeanFish said:
When I first started fishkeeping I thought wild caught fish was dumb and inmoral. Right now I would be willing to pay a bit more to get wild caught fish. The quality of wild caught fish cant be compared with the captive bred trash we are getting today.
I dislike some methods tho. Shooting cyanide in fish´s faces to capture them is not good.
you could buy from hobbyist breeders
 

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Hobbyst breeders are non-existant here and If I have the chance I still want the real deal, a wild caught fish. I cant imagine how cool it would be to have a wild Sailfin Molly strain in my hands, or a wild Yucatan Molly strain. Or even a random Poecilia Sphenops wild strain, they all beat the commercial ones in terms of inmunity, hardiness and size.
 

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I don't see a problem with it, especially if it's in North America where fishing is well regulated. It's way better than the thousands of wild fish being captured in South America and elsewhere around the world and then starved and shipped for long distances to be sold. If you buy fish from a lfs or chain store and don't know where it's sourced from, then you're being a hypocrite if you're against people doing it here locally and sustainably for themselves
 
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I don't see a problem with it, especially if it's in North America where fishing is well regulated. It's way better than the thousands of wild fish being captured in South America and elsewhere around the world and then starved and shipped for long distances to be sold. If you buy fish from a lfs or chain store and don't know where it's sourced from, then you're being a hypocrite if you're against people doing it here locally and sustainably for themselves
I'm not against it, I just don't have the heart to do it myself haha

You're absolutely right though, It could be a very fun and interesting project. There are a lot of fish that are still wild caught.

Also though, you can look at axolotls (not a fish but basically same hobby) and how they're becoming extinct in their natural habitat due to environmental issues , the only thing keeping them from going extinct is the aquarium hobby. It's safe to assume someone didn't just genetically engineer an axolotl , they had to have been wild caught at first.
 

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It's simply not something I would do.
 

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Ozzy said:
I'm not against it, I just don't have the heart to do it myself haha

You're absolutely right though, It could be a very fun and interesting project. There are a lot of fish that are still wild caught.

Also though, you can look at axolotls (not a fish but basically same hobby) and how they're becoming extinct in their natural habitat due to environmental issues , the only thing keeping them from going extinct is the aquarium hobby. It's safe to assume someone didn't just genetically engineer an axolotl , they had to have been wild caught at first.
I was just giving my opinion on the subject, not at you specifically or anyone else here, as I haven't read any of the comments to be honest. There are actually a couple posters that I know of whom would have a probelm with catching wild fish, here in North America, which I don't get at all. A lot of gamefish are even farmed and released into the wild to be caught by fisherman in most, if not all 50, states in the US. Heck, many of them that are stocked are actually out of their natural range (thus, technically invasive), even, such as the largemouth bass (as one example), which are stocked in every state (except Alaska, I think) because they are a popular sportfish. I can see a problem with doing it with saltwater species, but catching and keeping freshwater fish won't put even a sliver of a problem towards population. And again, if anyone has a specific problem with taking fish out of the wild, many fish at your lfs are wild caught.
 

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If it's legal, sure. I love aquariums with local native species, which I've only seen in certain nature conservancy locations.

There are also locations like Florida (Australia was mentioned in the thread but it happens in the US too), where there are invasive tropical species. Would be practically free fish if you have a fishing license.
 

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Depending on the fish why not. If I had a big enough tank (like 300g) I love to keep some of the bullhead catfish and various minnows I catch. That being said, it is then my responsibility to take care of them. For the most part, fish need a huge space in the wild for food. If they constant had someone dumping food directly over their hole in the us, I'd be pretty confident saying their territory wouldn't be as big. BUT on the other hand if I felt like keeping the Chanel catfish you can catch that get 3-4 feet long you had better have one heck of a massive tank to house them properly in. Same with the tiny adorable little 6" baby Jack that get to 5' long.

It's when species are being caught to extinction that I have issues. As long as you take care of them, I don't see why not. They are sometimes more fragile then store bought because they are not used to dealing with the joys of tap water and as long as you would quartine them like any other fish there really isn't that big of a difference. Course for predators it might take a while to get them onto pellets or seomthig instead of live.
 

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I've always been torn on this. On the one hand I'd love to catch small wild fish and keep them and since I'm in Florida there are plenty of aquarium fish that you can find wild her. On the other it seems like one of the most incredibly cruel things you could do to an animal-take it out of an area where it has as much room as it could possibly want and put it in a teeny box. I have a bunch of least killis I found in a feeder tank that are living in a 14 gallon tank and they were likely wild fish that got caught up in a guppy pond but they were in a tank being sold for food when I got them so I don't feel bad about it. I think if you went out to catch a least killi or one of the other nano-killis here it would still be cruel to put them in a tank that would be "appropriately" sized had they been tank raised i.e a 10-20 gallon. I think if you went out and caught one of these fish, even the small species that are 1.5" MAX, to keep them happy they should be in a 40 gal. I would like to have a 40 gal breeder "pond" of wild mosquito fish or bluefin killis but I couldn't imagine shoving fish that can travel a very long way without hitting an edge into anything much smaller.
 
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