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one of my males, Calcifer, has a lot of issues. I'm pretty sure they are due to being imbred, being from PetSmart. but lately, his tail has been thinning out and is now see-through, tho it still seems to be whole. he acts normal (for him anyway....), and still eats and is active, so I have no clue what it could be, as none of my other fish are not showing any symptoms and are all completely normal and active. I have no way of checking water conditions, but I do water changes ever other week. could it be something bad, or is he a good example of a super-imbred fish?

sorry, but right now, my computer is rejecting the picture adding part of this site, so I can't put any up till I can get to another computer...
 

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Akari_32 said:
one of my males, Calcifer, has a lot of issues. I'm pretty sure they are due to being imbred, being from PetSmart. but lately, his tail has been thinning out and is now see-through, tho it still seems to be whole. he acts normal (for him anyway....), and still eats and is active, so I have no clue what it could be, as none of my other fish are not showing any symptoms and are all completely normal and active. I have no way of checking water conditions, but I do water changes ever other week. could it be something bad, or is he a good example of a super-imbred fish?

sorry, but right now, my computer is rejecting the picture adding part of this site, so I can't put any up till I can get to another computer...
inbred could very well be an issue but if his tail was normal before you got him, its probably not the case of inbreeding....having a test kit and knowing your tank parimeters at all times, is probably going to be your best bet...I would up the changes to small ones everyday with some stress coat + until you know for sure its not an uncycled tank....every other week isn't going to be enough when there is fin damage going on.....how many males do you have in the tank with him? and what other fish are there as well?
 
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inbred could very well be an issue but if his tail was normal before you got him, its probably not the case of inbreeding....having a test kit and knowing your tank parimeters at all times, is probably going to be your best bet...I would up the changes to small ones everyday with some stress coat + until you know for sure its not an uncycled tank....every other week isn't going to be enough when there is fin damage going on.....how many males do you have in the tank with him? and what other fish are there as well?
I used to do 30-ish% water changes every week, but my parents are against it , and don't believe in spoiling (except when we clean out our fridge and feed left overs to the dogs). every one of our pets get the best care I can give them with no job (wich isn't much, buy I try...). mom got on me about water changes every week and changing the filter every month, saying that it's "too much. they're just fish!" so yeah... that also leads to not being able to but things like tests kits (and high quality foods... -_-) and medications (all the meds I got were free because a local pet store was closing and my friends mom gave them to me). and the tank has been up for a while, long enough for it to stable. and I set it up in a way that I didnt have to let it "cycle". I put all the water from the tank they came in into the 20 gallon and after adding the new water, left the old filter running in the 20 gallon with the new filter and put 1 fish in there over night. its like a 50% water change, only I added water instead of taking water out.

as for other fish, there are 3 other adult males, 8 four month fry, 4 2-3 week old fry and now only one oto, because Ninja decided that the algae on the filter intake looked tastey.... also Juice, my adult female, and 5 four month fry and 2 two month fry are in the breeders net, until they get new homes in a week or two. its a bit crowded, but Beatle and Juice and the 5 older fry are getting new homes, so its only temperary...

also, Clacifer has had a pathetic tail since the day I got him. tho its only recently started this. it would darken at the end before it grew out, and it never grew out evenly, but more like a crowntail betta, but not as exagerated, just kinda zig-zaggy and ****
 

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I used to do 30-ish% water changes every week, but my parents are against it , and don't believe in spoiling (except when we clean out our fridge and feed left overs to the dogs). every one of our pets get the best care I can give them with no job (wich isn't much, buy I try...). mom got on me about water changes every week and changing the filter every month, saying that it's "too much. they're just fish!" so yeah... that also leads to not being able to but things like tests kits (and high quality foods... -_-) and medications (all the meds I got were free because a local pet store was closing and my friends mom gave them to me). and the tank has been up for a while, long enough for it to stable. and I set it up in a way that I didnt have to let it "cycle". I put all the water from the tank they came in into the 20 gallon and after adding the new water, left the old filter running in the 20 gallon with the new filter and put 1 fish in there over night. its like a 50% water change, only I added water instead of taking water out.

as for other fish, there are 3 other adult males, 8 four month fry, 4 2-3 week old fry and now only one oto, because Ninja decided that the algae on the filter intake looked tastey.... also Juice, my adult female, and 5 four month fry and 2 two month fry are in the breeders net, until they get new homes in a week or two. its a bit crowded, but Beatle and Juice and the 5 older fry are getting new homes, so its only temperary...

also, Clacifer has had a pathetic tail since the day I got him. tho its only recently started this. it would darken at the end before it grew out, and it never grew out evenly, but more like a crowntail betta, but not as exagerated, just kinda zig-zaggy and ****
without a test kit, and more frequent water changes, its probably just a cycling issue.....its hard when you are a younger member that has to live by adult rules...but if they aren't going to let you properly take care of them, maybe you need to return some to the pet store and wait until you can afford some things they need? hope all works out!
 
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without a test kit, and more frequent water changes, its probably just a cycling issue.....its hard when you are a younger member that has to live by adult rules...but if they aren't going to let you properly take care of them, maybe you need to return some to the pet store and wait until you can afford some things they need? hope all works out!
i'll be gitting a job this summer, but the 5 older fry will be going back to the store or to a friends tank, and Beatle and Juice will be going to a friends house also, and I'm still not sure what I'm going to do with Howl Jr and Calcifer, because I'm not sure if a want them to breed any more or not... I wunna start breeding lyretails and swords, tho I'm not sure if I want top, bottom or both...:-\ anyway! soon I'll have a job and I'll save up for one of those fancy electronic testers! mufufufufufu! what would be ideal conditions for my tank any way?
 

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Really, all you need is a liquid test kit from API. That is what most of us use here, and it is only around $30. This link here might help:


It is only $21.89 plus shipping. Well worth it. It is something you absolutely need from the moment you first add water to your tank. For ideal conditions for your tank, you should read our info on the Nitrogen Cycle and also refer to the information in the fish profiles for what fish you have. The profile will have the ideal tank size, ph, and temperature for your fish.
 
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Beeker said:
Really, all you need is a liquid test kit from API. That is what most of us use here, and it is only around $30. This link here might help:


It is only $21.89 plus shipping. Well worth it. It is something you absolutely need from the moment you first add water to your tank. For ideal conditions for your tank, you should read our info on the Nitrogen Cycle and also refer to the information in the fish profiles for what fish you have. The profile will have the ideal tank size, ph, and temperature for your fish.
ruin my fun >.< lol jk I'll check it out, but if I can't buy it from a store, then chances are, I'll have to get something else
 
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yay! I got the pix up! as u can see, his poor tail is see-thru now, but is still whole.... still not sure what its from, as the other fish are all just fine ???

p.s.~ the blueish male with the giant red/orange tail in the second pic is Howl Jr and the orange, yellow and blue one is Beatle, and there are also 2 of Holw Jr's fry in there too (I just relized that Erik wasn't their father when it hit me that one of the fry had the same red tail as Howl Jr did lol)!
 

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ReiNHerMollies said:
I love Howl's moving castle.... Awesome names for your Fishies!!!!!
thank u! Howl Senior and his girlfriends, Glitt and Aqua, were atacked by ich that was brot in with some panda corrys... I miss them so much T_T

u kno, I originally got guppies to feed my picky ADF's, KarI and Starr, the fry when HBH changed their sinking pellets, and I fell in love with them. this was also when I first intruduced to Howl's Moving Castle, and Howl Sr acted just like the real Howl lol it just seemed fitting >.<
 
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its seems to be getting better.... still not sure what it is tho. don't forget to check out the pix above!
 

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hmm.... I hope I can help you, but one of my male guppy is showing very similar sympton. My rough guess was that I wasn't feeding him well that the pigments in the fin had ran out? maybe... because I had to leave for vacation and the fish were only fed about once or twice a week for about a month. I hoped that my fish would get their own food from the plants and mosses that almost take up 50% of the tank space.

I'll share what happens with him as soon as he shows any signs.
 
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hmm.... I hope I can help you, but one of my male guppy is showing very similar sympton. My rough guess was that I wasn't feeding him well that the pigments in the fin had ran out? maybe... because I had to leave for vacation and the fish were only fed about once or twice a week for about a month. I hoped that my fish would get their own food from the plants and mosses that almost take up 50% of the tank space.

I'll share what happens with him as soon as he shows any signs.
thanks~

I feed my fish 3 times a day (except for my betta. only twice a day for him). they get TetraMin, BettaMin, frozen brine shrimp/veggies, HikarI sinking waffers and that papery brown algae sheet stuff (they aren't sure about that stuff yet tho). so I dunno if its from lack of proper nutrition on my side, but u never kno lol
 
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his tail is all better now! tho I never changed anything to fix it ??? it just magically fixed it self... wierd...
 

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