Thinking About Aquarium, Would These Fish Work?

Noah Taylor
  • #1
Okay so I might start a freshwater aquarium, my first, and I have a few fish I have looked at that all share a common temperature, KH, and Ph factors. I plan on doing a 30-40 gallon as I have heard these sizes are good for beginners as there is space and water change problems are less prominent in these sizes.

Temperature Range: 75-78
KH : 8
Ph : 7

Would these fish and other animals work:
One Male Betta (Not sure what type yet, I know that males cannot be kept with other male betta but do fine with other fish)

Six-Ten Neon Tetra Jumbos
One Freshwater Asian Gold Clam
One Freshwater Clam
One Albino Mystery Snail
One Red Cherry Shrimp
One Black Moor Goldfish
One Rio Negro Plecostomus
One Black Myster Snail
One Red Crystal Shrimp
One Stebra's Cory Cat
Six-Ten Celestial Pearl Diano

I haven't made any purchases yet but looked at these. They are all noted to be peaceful. Would these cause problems for each other? Would it be possible to add a ghost lobster? They only grow to an inch so I think they wouldn't be able to attack the fish, but what about the clams and shrimp? I am sorry if I seem dumb, but I have never kept a fish besides a beta. Could y'all recommend any other fish that are preferably colorful or interesting? Thanks in advance for answering!
 
bettathe
  • #2
Okay so I might start a freshwater aquarium, my first, and I have a few fish I have looked at that all share a common temperature, KH, and Ph factors. I plan on doing a 30-40 gallon as I have heard these sizes are good for beginners as there is space and water change problems are less prominent in these sizes.

Temperature Range: 75-78
KH : 8
Ph : 7

Would these fish and other animals work:
One Male Betta (Not sure what type yet, I know that males cannot be kept with other male betta but do fine with other fish)

Six-Ten Neon Tetra Jumbos
One Freshwater Asian Gold Clam
One Freshwater Clam
One Albino Mystery Snail
One Red Cherry Shrimp
One Black Moor Goldfish
One Rio Negro Plecostomus
One Black Myster Snail
One Red Crystal Shrimp
One Stebra's Cory Cat
Six-Ten Celestial Pearl Diano

I haven't made any purchases yet but looked at these. They are all noted to be peaceful. Would these cause problems for each other? Would it be possible to add a ghost lobster? They only grow to an inch so I think they wouldn't be able to attack the fish, but what about the clams and shrimp? I am sorry if I seem dumb, but I have never kept a fish besides a beta. Could y'all recommend any other fish that are preferably colorful or interesting? Thanks in advance for answering!
I don't know much about some of the fish you've stated, but one thing that you should know is corys should be kept in groups of at least 4-6... If you just got one it would be quite bored and scared.... oh and certain corys have different temperature requirements so always do research before buying. They are very social fish and enjoy being with a few others! Good luck with your build!
 
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Noah Taylor
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  • #3
I don't know much about some of the fish you've stated, but one thing that you should know is corys should be kept in groups of at least 4-6... If you just got one it would be quite bored and scared.... oh and certain corys have different temperature requirements so always do research before buying. They are very social fish and enjoy being with a few others! Good luck with your build!
Thank you!
 
EbiAqua
  • #4
There are a lot of issues with your selection. Temperature incompatibilities, size incompatibilities, and school size issues. Clams will also starve unless you feed the tank with microflora/microfauna for them to filter feed. Not sure what jumbo neon tetras are...

Here is a better stocking for a subtropical tank with temps 76' F or lower:

8-10 neon tetras, or celestial pearl danios, or white cloud mountain minnows
1-2 mystery snails, any color
1 rio negro pleco
8-10 panda, false julii, or peppered corydoras (corys are schooling fish and need to be in groups of 6 or more), or dojo loaches
1 paradise fish or 2 bolivian rams (centerpiece fish)
10+ cherry shrimp

For tropical temps over 76' F:

***1 male betta (not recommended for community tanks but may work)***

8-10 glowlight, lemon, or rummynose tetras
1-2 mystery snails, any color
1 clown pleco (needs wood in diet)
8-10 kuhlI loaches, or sterbaI or bronze corydoras
1 dwarf gourami or 2 german blue rams (do not keep either with a betta)
10+ cherry shrimp

I would not put crayfish/lobsters in with fish or plants, as they will eat both.

Black moors need to be kept in species only tanks with other fancy goldfish, minimum 29 gallons for 1 fish.
 
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2211Nighthawk
  • #5
There are defiantly some stocking issues that I can see but I'm no expert.
Shrimp can be very delicate so just having one or two they're not gonna live long. Usually people get big groups because they breed and fast as they die so there are always some shrimp in the tank. They also need heavy cover so that juveniles don't get eaten.
The black moor should only be with other fancy goldfish because they are slow awkward fish and might not get food plus getting bullied on. Same can be told for the betta but that's a hit and a miss. Some work some don't, it depends.
And yes, corries need groups of up to six.
 
EbiAqua
  • #6
Forgot to mention that corys and loaches need sand as a substrate, as gravel can cause them injuries and wears down their barbels.
 
Noah Taylor
  • Thread Starter
  • #7
There are a lot of issues with your selection. Temperature incompatibilities, size incompatibilities, and school size issues. Clams will also starve unless you feed the tank with microflora/microfauna for them to filter feed. Not sure what jumbo neon tetras are...

Here is a better stocking for a subtropical tank with temps 76' F or lower:

8-10 neon tetras, or celestial pearl danios, or white cloud mountain minnows
1-2 mystery snails, any color
1 rio negro pleco
8-10 panda, false julii, or peppered corydoras (corys are schooling fish and need to be in groups of 6 or more), or dojo loaches
1 paradise fish or 2 bolivian rams (centerpiece fish)
10+ cherry shrimp

For tropical temps over 76' F:

***1 male betta (not recommended for community tanks but may work)***

8-10 glowlight, lemon, or rummynose tetras
1-2 mystery snails, any color
1 clown pleco (needs wood in diet)
8-10 kuhlI loaches, or sterbaI or bronze corydoras
1 dwarf gourami or 2 german blue rams (do not keep either with a betta)
10+ cherry shrimp

I would not put crayfish/lobsters in with fish or plants, as they will eat both.

Thank you so much! This is so helpful! Also I only thought they were compatible because live aquaria said temperatures were all fine on these
 
EbiAqua
  • #8
Thank you so much! This is so helpful! Also I only thought they were compatible because live aquaria said temperatures were all fine on these

If a fish's temperature range says 70-78' F, do not keep them at the upper or lower limits of their temperature range. It is better to keep subtropical species at room temperature, between 72' and 76' F. This leads to healthier fish with longer lifespans that are less prone to disease.
 
Noah Taylor
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  • #9
If a fish's temperature range says 70-78' F, do not keep them at the upper or lower limits of their temperature range. It is better to keep subtropical species at room temperature, between 72' and 76' F. This leads to healthier fish with longer lifespans that are less prone to disease.

Could you send me a pm if you don't mind me asking you more questions? You seem very knowledgable and I just created an account and can't find the pm buttom
 
BlazeitChris
  • #10
The goldfish sounds kinda iffy because they're generally coldwater fish. The only thing I would definitely say no to would be the clams. In my experience clams are pretty tough to keep alive unless your tank is filthy.
 
2211Nighthawk
  • #11
The goldfish sounds kinda iffy because they're generally coldwater fish. The only thing I would definitely say no to would be the clams. In my experience clams are pretty tough to keep alive unless your tank is filthy.
Fancies do need warmer water then commons/comets (high 60's or very low 70's and I think fancies are in the mid 70's range) so temperature wise I *think* it would work but only temperature. There are a wack load of other issues.
 

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