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Hello again...
UPDATE: SEE POST #17
It has been five years since my last FishLore post and since I dismantled my aquaria before leaving for university. Having now graduated and with a lot of free time on my hands, I've finally returned to the hobby. Although I'd previously considered myself a fairly experienced aquarist, the story of my new tank includes a fair few rookie errors! So I'm turning to FishLore for the sound advice I know this community for.
1) The tank
Our apartment is small, so the only suitable aquarium my girlfriend and I could muster was a 34 litre (9 US gallon) tank, which measures 50cm (19.6") x 25cm (9.8") x 28cm (11").
A small tank, but I'd enjoyed several nano setups, including solitary bettas and 'nano communities. The tank isn't a mistake, necessarily, but a limitation.
As my girlfriend hadn't kept fish before, we'd agreed she would choose the tank's primary inhabitants, with myself advising and making any little additions after.
2) The cycle
I've always fishless cycled and that's what I set out for. I set up the tank, planted it with Hyygrophila, Vallisneria and Anubias, and let the ammonia and bacteria get on with business. However, two weeks in, and our nitrite stage is slow to start. I'd always used fish food as my ammonia source in past, so that's what I did, hoping it would give the plants nutrients.
Mistake #1) Inconsistent ammonia source.
Something jogs my memory; on FishLore, we always used to talk about Tetra SafeStart. I've always been sceptical of SafeStart, or any such 'wonder solutions', but I could not ignore the amount of positive experiences online. My girlfriend was set on fancy guppies at this point, which I felt would weather the SafeStarted cycle. I ordered a bottle for 60L...
Mistake #2) Impatience.
3) SafeStarting
When the bottle arrived, my tanks' readings were 1.2 Ammonia, <5 Nitrite and <5 Nitrate. Not cycled, although I had seen bigger nitrite spikes that week. Having read SafeStart instructions, I decided to do a 90% water change and plop a little SafeStart in early, to sort out lingering ammonia before fish. After 6 hours, Ammonia tested 0, we plopped the rest of the SafeStart bottle in, then headed for the fish shop. I think this was the correct procedure with SafeStart.
4) The fish shop
We went to the only fish shop open past 5pm. I was very surprised to find no guppies in our LFS, but my girlfriend instantly fell in love with a gorgeous purple male Betta. Remembering my old bettas fondly, I was pleased. I'd always kept bettas as solitary animals, but worried in the shop: will one fish be enough to feed this bacteria which I've just dropped into the tank?
Mistake #3) Adding SafeStart before guaranteeing the fish can be sourced.
Thinking on my feet, I scanned the shop tanks for something which would cohabit with a betta whilst pumping out some bio-load. Historically I've planned my stocks meticulously in advance; this was completely impromptu.
Mistake #4) Brash stocking decisions made in the LFS.
I struggled! I've always been sceptical of schooling fish with bettas. No small plecos, cories or nerites were available. So I turned to platies - a fish I'd always known as small, hardy and harmless. I swear they had two males... But once the first was netted, we could only see gravid females, or male swordtails. I'd never kept swordtails, but remembered them as 'big platies'. Thinking he would basically be a 10cm platy, I asked for a male swordtail. With little else in the shop suiting my ideas and no other chance in our schedules to buy fish in the next 36 hours, I decided this would ensure my SafeStart worked.
Mistake #5) Over-confident and under-researched decisions!
5) Introducing the motley crew
We came home with a male betta, male swordtail and male platy, in separate bags. Going through the usual process of darkened tank and adjusting the bag water, trouble brewed. Whenever betta sighted the livebearers in the adjacent bag, he flared his gills. I thought, uh-oh... An hour later, I've netted them into the tank.
Immediately, even in the dark, the betta chases each livebearer, flaring his gills at them. Swordtail initially has a little 'face off', but backs off. Both livebearers now simply flee betta. For about half an hour I watch in distress as the betta intermittently chases the livebearers around the tank. He does seem to let up after a while, and we go to bed.
6) The morning after
I came into the living room in trepidation... Turning on dI'm room lights first, the fish awake. Before long, betta has flared his gills at swordtail, and this happens about once every five minutes. Platy receives some, but markedly less,
The tank's length and planting throughout the back mean that betta and livebearer can go five minutes easily without encountering each other. Over the course of today, things seem to be calming down. The livebearers move quite loosely around the tank. Right now all three are running up and down the front glass, not seeming aggressive at all. The livebearers perhaps seem a little nervous of betta, and betta was swimming at them a few hours ago, but not flaring gills. Each fish has utilised one of the two coconut caves. Water parameters look safe!
7) Questions: what future for these fish?
Here, I'll ask for advice:
- Do you think this stocking situation can be sustainable? Does it seem like the fish have settled their disputes and might live in relative peace?
- If I remove my livebearers, will the low bio-load threaten my SafeStart cycle? I'm worried the bacteria will starve with just one betta's bio-load.
- If I remove the betta, how advisable is keeping a swordtail in this tank?
- What would you do?
Thankyou in advance
UPDATE: SEE POST #17
It has been five years since my last FishLore post and since I dismantled my aquaria before leaving for university. Having now graduated and with a lot of free time on my hands, I've finally returned to the hobby. Although I'd previously considered myself a fairly experienced aquarist, the story of my new tank includes a fair few rookie errors! So I'm turning to FishLore for the sound advice I know this community for.
1) The tank
Our apartment is small, so the only suitable aquarium my girlfriend and I could muster was a 34 litre (9 US gallon) tank, which measures 50cm (19.6") x 25cm (9.8") x 28cm (11").
A small tank, but I'd enjoyed several nano setups, including solitary bettas and 'nano communities. The tank isn't a mistake, necessarily, but a limitation.
As my girlfriend hadn't kept fish before, we'd agreed she would choose the tank's primary inhabitants, with myself advising and making any little additions after.
2) The cycle
I've always fishless cycled and that's what I set out for. I set up the tank, planted it with Hyygrophila, Vallisneria and Anubias, and let the ammonia and bacteria get on with business. However, two weeks in, and our nitrite stage is slow to start. I'd always used fish food as my ammonia source in past, so that's what I did, hoping it would give the plants nutrients.
Mistake #1) Inconsistent ammonia source.
Something jogs my memory; on FishLore, we always used to talk about Tetra SafeStart. I've always been sceptical of SafeStart, or any such 'wonder solutions', but I could not ignore the amount of positive experiences online. My girlfriend was set on fancy guppies at this point, which I felt would weather the SafeStarted cycle. I ordered a bottle for 60L...
Mistake #2) Impatience.
3) SafeStarting
When the bottle arrived, my tanks' readings were 1.2 Ammonia, <5 Nitrite and <5 Nitrate. Not cycled, although I had seen bigger nitrite spikes that week. Having read SafeStart instructions, I decided to do a 90% water change and plop a little SafeStart in early, to sort out lingering ammonia before fish. After 6 hours, Ammonia tested 0, we plopped the rest of the SafeStart bottle in, then headed for the fish shop. I think this was the correct procedure with SafeStart.
4) The fish shop
We went to the only fish shop open past 5pm. I was very surprised to find no guppies in our LFS, but my girlfriend instantly fell in love with a gorgeous purple male Betta. Remembering my old bettas fondly, I was pleased. I'd always kept bettas as solitary animals, but worried in the shop: will one fish be enough to feed this bacteria which I've just dropped into the tank?
Mistake #3) Adding SafeStart before guaranteeing the fish can be sourced.
Thinking on my feet, I scanned the shop tanks for something which would cohabit with a betta whilst pumping out some bio-load. Historically I've planned my stocks meticulously in advance; this was completely impromptu.
Mistake #4) Brash stocking decisions made in the LFS.
I struggled! I've always been sceptical of schooling fish with bettas. No small plecos, cories or nerites were available. So I turned to platies - a fish I'd always known as small, hardy and harmless. I swear they had two males... But once the first was netted, we could only see gravid females, or male swordtails. I'd never kept swordtails, but remembered them as 'big platies'. Thinking he would basically be a 10cm platy, I asked for a male swordtail. With little else in the shop suiting my ideas and no other chance in our schedules to buy fish in the next 36 hours, I decided this would ensure my SafeStart worked.
Mistake #5) Over-confident and under-researched decisions!
5) Introducing the motley crew
We came home with a male betta, male swordtail and male platy, in separate bags. Going through the usual process of darkened tank and adjusting the bag water, trouble brewed. Whenever betta sighted the livebearers in the adjacent bag, he flared his gills. I thought, uh-oh... An hour later, I've netted them into the tank.
Immediately, even in the dark, the betta chases each livebearer, flaring his gills at them. Swordtail initially has a little 'face off', but backs off. Both livebearers now simply flee betta. For about half an hour I watch in distress as the betta intermittently chases the livebearers around the tank. He does seem to let up after a while, and we go to bed.
6) The morning after
I came into the living room in trepidation... Turning on dI'm room lights first, the fish awake. Before long, betta has flared his gills at swordtail, and this happens about once every five minutes. Platy receives some, but markedly less,
The tank's length and planting throughout the back mean that betta and livebearer can go five minutes easily without encountering each other. Over the course of today, things seem to be calming down. The livebearers move quite loosely around the tank. Right now all three are running up and down the front glass, not seeming aggressive at all. The livebearers perhaps seem a little nervous of betta, and betta was swimming at them a few hours ago, but not flaring gills. Each fish has utilised one of the two coconut caves. Water parameters look safe!
7) Questions: what future for these fish?
Here, I'll ask for advice:
- Do you think this stocking situation can be sustainable? Does it seem like the fish have settled their disputes and might live in relative peace?
- If I remove my livebearers, will the low bio-load threaten my SafeStart cycle? I'm worried the bacteria will starve with just one betta's bio-load.
- If I remove the betta, how advisable is keeping a swordtail in this tank?
- What would you do?
Thankyou in advance