Tetra disease decimated my tank?

HI guys,
In the last 2 - 3 days I've had my tetra stock absolutely decimated one by one and wondering if it is the dreaded 'Tetra Disease'.

My tank is a AquaOne Lifestyle 55ltr (14.5gallon). Has a heater, inbuilt filter etc and is brand new.

My current stock levels (yes I know I'm overstocked) were:

4 x Neon Tetra's (ALL DEAD)
4 x Glow-light Tetra's (ALL DEAD)
3 x Platys (males)
1 x Dwarf Gourami
4 x Guppies (males)
2 x Albino Corys
1 x Bristlenose Pleco (yes I know these grow big so will re-home asap)
1 x Siamese Algae Eater (added 2 weeks ago - DEAD)

I'm doing weekly water changes of approx 20-30% and make sure not to overfeed etc.

Tank water looks clear, fish were healthy and have had Amm: 0, Nitrite: 0 and Nitrate: 0 - 5ppm depending when I test and how close to a water change.




It is slightly more heavily planted than the above image since it was taken.

So I noticed 1 x neon tetra that looked reserved, not interested in food and was a little twitchy/lethargic.

The others looked fine.

Next day, the neon was dead, and a heap of others looked reserved, twitchy etc. They almost were on the bottom, stationary, breathing quickly.

Over the next few days I've lost them in 1 - 2 at a time, and this morning found the Siamese Algae eater was also dead so I'm wondering if he ate the body of one of the Tetras and subsequently died.

So I got the remaining 3 that were looking a bit under the weather and put them out of their misery because they didn't look great and I didn't want it to spread.

The Siamese Algae eater was only purchased 2 weeks ago.

Questions:

1. The fact all the other fish seem ok, could this be Tetra disease?
2. Could the Algae eater have been a carrier? And could he have died through eating flesh of a passed Neon?
3. If I were to want to add some tetras in the future, do you need to wait a period of time before doing so as I have no idea about how long this disease may stick around?

Whilst overstocked, I constantly check parameters and clean regularly so i'm shattered that i've lost so many so quickly. Any advice/help is greatly appreciated as I had to explain to my 3 year old daughter that the fishes are no longer there

 

HI guys,
In the last 2 - 3 days I've had my tetra stock absolutely decimated one by one and wondering if it is the dreaded 'Tetra Disease'.

My tank is a AquaOne Lifestyle 55ltr (14.5gallon). Has a heater, inbuilt filter etc and is brand new.

My current stock levels (yes I know I'm overstocked) were:

4 x Neon Tetra's (ALL DEAD)
4 x Glow-light Tetra's (ALL DEAD)
3 x Platys (males)
1 x Dwarf Gourami
4 x Guppies (males)
2 x Albino Corys
1 x Bristlenose Pleco (yes I know these grow big so will re-home asap)
1 x Siamese Algae Eater (added 2 weeks ago - DEAD)

I'm doing weekly water changes of approx 20-30% and make sure not to overfeed etc.

Tank water looks clear, fish were healthy and have had Amm: 0, Nitrite: 0 and Nitrate: 0 - 5ppm depending when I test and how close to a water change.

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It is slightly more heavily planted than the above image since it was taken.

So I noticed 1 x neon tetra that looked reserved, not interested in food and was a little twitchy/lethargic.

The others looked fine.

Next day, the neon was dead, and a heap of others looked reserved, twitchy etc. They almost were on the bottom, stationary, breathing quickly.

Over the next few days I've lost them in 1 - 2 at a time, and this morning found the Siamese Algae eater was also dead so I'm wondering if he ate the body of one of the Tetras and subsequently died.

So I got the remaining 3 that were looking a bit under the weather and put them out of their misery because they didn't look great and I didn't want it to spread.

The Siamese Algae eater was only purchased 2 weeks ago.

Questions:

1. The fact all the other fish seem ok, could this be Tetra disease?
2. Could the Algae eater have been a carrier? And could he have died through eating flesh of a passed Neon?
3. If I were to want to add some tetras in the future, do you need to wait a period of time before doing so as I have no idea about how long this disease may stick around?

Whilst overstocked, I constantly check parameters and clean regularly so i'm shattered that i've lost so many so quickly. Any advice/help is greatly appreciated as I had to explain to my 3 year old daughter that the fishes are no longer there

I know it may be a trivial question, but did you remember to de-chlorinate the water? It’s a rookie mistake, but I’ve found myself almost forgetting to add Prime to my tanks before re-adding new water. Granted, I’m pregnant and am having major pregnancy brain, but the lethargic behavior, twitches, and gasping reminds me of chlorine poisoning. Has your tap water smelled more chlorinated recently? I know that can happen too, and for that I usually double dose Prime. I’m sorry your tank got decimated. That always sucks.

 

I know it may be a trivial question, but did you remember to de-chlorinate the water? It’s a rookie mistake, but I’ve found myself almost forgetting to add Prime to my tanks before re-adding new water. Granted, I’m pregnant and am having major pregnancy brain, but the lethargic behavior, twitches, and gasping reminds me of chlorine poisoning. Has your tap water smelled more chlorinated recently? I know that can happen too, and for that I usually double dose Prime. I’m sorry your tank got decimated. That always sucks.

You've got me second guessing myself now lol, I'm 99.99% certain that I put prime into the bucket of new water and added the salts, they did go funny 3 - 4 days after a water change but still, all the other fish are fine so it's strange just the tetra's (more sensitive?).

I kind of want it to be tetra disease so that I know what it is and can just rule it down to the randomness of it happening as i've read elsewhere.

 

You've got me second guessing myself now lol, I'm 99.99% certain that I put prime into the bucket of new water and added the salts, they did go funny 3 - 4 days after a water change but still, all the other fish are fine so it's strange just the tetra's (more sensitive?).

I kind of want it to be tetra disease so that I know what it is and can just rule it down to the randomness of it happening as i've read elsewhere.

Wait, you put aquarium salt in the tank? Tetras and algae eaters are both scaleless, and salt is very very hard on them since they don’t have that extra barrier to protect them. It may have been the salt.

 

Wait, you put aquarium salt in the tank? Tetras and algae eaters are both scaleless, and salt is very very hard on them since they don’t have that extra barrier to protect them. It may have been the salt.

No the aquarium crystals/salt as the tap water here in Aus needs it added. Never been an issue ever

 

No the aquarium crystals/salt as the tap water here in Aus needs it added. Never been an issue ever

Hmmmm then I’m really at a loss.

You said they were breathing quickly, like gasping? If so, that makes me think maybe it’s an oxygen issue? Are you dosing your planted tank with CO2? They need extra oxygen from a bubbler stone if you are. High temperature can also cause them to suffocate as it doesn’t hold as much oxygen in it as colder water. You posted your nitrogen cycle readings, and this is a cycled tank, correct? I’d imagine it is seeing as you had no ammonia or nitrites with that many fish, but I’m trying to rule everything out off the top of my head. Nitrites can cause fish to gasp as well. Any variety of infections could be the issue, but it’s hard to know if the fish didn’t have physical symptoms present. Were any of their gills bloodshot or did you see any physical abnormalities? Is the water still kind of milky like the picture you uploaded? If so, it could be a bacterial bloom and possibly new tank syndrome.

 

You said they were breathing quickly, like gasping? If so, that makes me think maybe it’s an oxygen issue? Are you dosing your planted tank with CO2? They need extra oxygen from a bubbler stone if you are. High temperature can also cause them to suffocate as it doesn’t hold as much oxygen in it as colder water. You posted your nitrogen cycle readings, and this is a cycled tank, correct? I’d imagine it is seeing as you had no ammonia or nitrites with that many fish, but I’m trying to rule everything out off the top of my head. Nitrites can cause fish to gasp as well. Any variety of infections could be the issue, but it’s hard to know if the fish didn’t have physical symptoms present. Were any of their gills bloodshot or did you see any physical abnormalities? Is the water still kind of milky like the picture you uploaded? If so, it could be a bacterial bloom and possibly new tank syndrome.

It could possibly be oxygen? I don't dose it with CO2 and have had tanks just like this previously without issue, I keep the temperature where it is recommended to be, and yes it is a cycled tank. My ammonia sometimes creeps up to 0.25 but that's when it's getting close to a water change, which it then goes back to 0 or thereabouts.

Couldn't see any abnormalities except for dullness of colour, and staying put in one area of the tank, hovering on the spot with mouthes open close relatively quickly.

Again, it's just strange only the Tetra's bit the dust, which is why I thought maybe the Tetra virus?

As they are all removed now, i've done a water change and the other fish look fine so will give it a few weeks and see from there. Thanks for coming back to me

 

It could possibly be oxygen? I don't dose it with CO2 and have had tanks just like this previously without issue, I keep the temperature where it is recommended to be, and yes it is a cycled tank. My ammonia sometimes creeps up to 0.25 but that's when it's getting close to a water change, which it then goes back to 0 or thereabouts.

Couldn't see any abnormalities except for dullness of colour, and staying put in one area of the tank, hovering on the spot with mouthes open close relatively quickly.

Again, it's just strange only the Tetra's bit the dust, which is why I thought maybe the Tetra virus?

As they are all removed now, i've done a water change and the other fish look fine so will give it a few weeks and see from there. Thanks for coming back to me

No problem! Just trying to figure this thing out with you lol. The dullness in color is a symptom of tetra disease, so you could definitely be onto something, it just usually can cause lumps and bumps and deformities before killing the fish, so if it is the tetra disease, you may have made the right call culling the other rough looking fish because sadly there isn’t a cure that I’m aware of. It’s a horrible way to die too. I’m glad to hear your other fish are looking well!

 

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No problem! Just trying to figure this thing out with you lol. The dullness in color is a symptom of tetra disease, so you could definitely be onto something, it just usually can cause lumps and bumps and deformities before killing the fish, so if it is the tetra disease, you may have made the right call culling the other rough looking fish because sadly there isn’t a cure that I’m aware of. It’s a horrible way to die too. I’m glad to hear your other fish are looking well!

Thanks I appreciate it! I guess the next week will tell, if the fish remain happy then I’ll put it down to the Tetra disease.

Will wait a while before I add any more (if any).

I’ve uploaded latest pic. It’s my first tank in over 10 years since I was a teenager so wanted to get something for my 3 year old daughter!

 

Nearly OT, but bristlenose pleco doesn't grow huge, just about 4-5 inch. Common pleco, on the other hand... huge.

 

Wait, you put aquarium salt in the tank? Tetras and algae eaters are both scaleless, and salt is very very hard on them since they don’t have that extra barrier to protect them. It may have been the salt.

Tetras aren't scaleless.

If this would be Neon Tetra Disease (that's what you mean I think) you whole stocking would be dead by now. It is extremely rare as well.

It could be anything to which your tetras appear to be more sensitive for than other fish. Keep the water clean and wait adding anything till you're sure there isn't anything happening to other fish.

 

I suspect we have NTD in my daughters tank. Of 19 fish purchased form one particular shop 14 have died. No real symptoms until an ember tetra showed a white "bulge" in it's rear torso. We've treated with an internal parasite cure just in case. And I've purchased a preowned 100L tank to act as a quarantine for any new fish we add. We won't add fish until one month has passed since the last fish died. Whilst we do use Co2 as it's a heavily planted tank we also ripple the surface water and add oxygen through airstones. I don't think it's an oxygen issue as there a plenty of fish still in the tank (well about 60% of the original stock) and they show no signs of oxygen starvation. They all eat well and swim around well enough.

We have lost another ember late last week after we treated the tank.

So it's a watch and wait situation and if we see any fish with symptoms we will remove them. Not to the quarantine tank I hasten to add

Hope it improves for you

AiYn'U

 

Thanks I appreciate it! I guess the next week will tell, if the fish remain happy then I’ll put it down to the Tetra disease.
Will wait a while before I add any more (if any).
I’ve uploaded latest pic. It’s my first tank in over 10 years since I was a teenager so wanted to get something for my 3 year old daughter!

I tried a ten gallon tank just recently for my 3yo Vivienne... it did not go well ‍♀ She pulled a chair over to the tank, shredded up some paper, and put it into the tank... then came running into the living room saying, “Mommy! I did it! I did it! I feed the fishies, Mommy!” Oh it was a sight to see lol! She was so proud of herself, and I was pulling bits of paper from nooks and crannies for days. I told her the “baby tank” had to be moved into my room with the “mommy tank” so the fishies could see each other and wouldn’t get lonely lol. Thank goodness my dresser is long enough and strong enough to accommodate a 55 gallon and a 10 gallon tank with ease.

 

Tetras aren't scaleless.

If this would be Neon Tetra Disease (that's what you mean I think) you whole stocking would be dead by now. It is extremely rare as well.

It could be anything to which your tetras appear to be more sensitive for than other fish. Keep the water clean and wait adding anything till you're sure there isn't anything happening to other fish.

Huh, I’ve always read that they are scaleless, even on this forum? Learn something new every day.

 

Huh, I’ve always read that they are scaleless, even on this forum? Learn something new every day.

Algae eaters aren't scaleless either.

As a rule: Scaleless fish are mostly catfish, loaches or pufferfish. And even there it is not 100%, as some catfish can be armoured and some loaches can be scaled.
Every other group of fish has scales. If not they were either bred to be scaleless or one species in a bigger group of usually scaly fish, that developed scalelessness because of their habitat or ecological niche.

 

Algae eaters aren't scaleless either.

As a rule: Scaleless fish are mostly catfish, loaches or pufferfish. And even there it is not 100%, as some catfish can be armoured and some loaches can be scaled.
Every other group of fish has scales. If not they were either bred to be scaleless or one species in a bigger group of usually scaly fish, that developed scalelessness because of their habitat or ecological niche.

This is why I trust y’all and not the internet Sorry for the misinformation. Regardless, neons are definitely more sensitive to salts and medications, like scaleless fish, so I would take care in medicating tanks with them in it.

 

Tetras aren't scaleless.

If this would be Neon Tetra Disease (that's what you mean I think) you whole stocking would be dead by now. It is extremely rare as well.

It could be anything to which your tetras appear to be more sensitive for than other fish. Keep the water clean and wait adding anything till you're sure there isn't anything happening to other fish.

You are right it could have just been something that has set the Neons off due to their sensitivity but as mentioned water parameters have always tested well and I do regular water changes so I’m at a loss.

since the tetra’s died, I’ve lost 2 x albino cory’s and 1 x Siamese algae eater (I’m wondering if these were a secondary death due to eating the dead body of neon?, which is why I thought maybe Tetra disease as only the bottom feeders have died also)

The guppies, platys and dwarf gourami all look healthy, are eating well and moving well so I’m hoping this is the end of it!!!

I suspect we have NTD in my daughters tank. Of 19 fish purchased form one particular shop 14 have died. No real symptoms until an ember tetra showed a white "bulge" in it's rear torso. We've treated with an internal parasite cure just in case. And I've purchased a preowned 100L tank to act as a quarantine for any new fish we add. We won't add fish until one month has passed since the last fish died. Whilst we do use Co2 as it's a heavily planted tank we also ripple the surface water and add oxygen through airstones. I don't think it's an oxygen issue as there a plenty of fish still in the tank (well about 60% of the original stock) and they show no signs of oxygen starvation. They all eat well and swim around well enough.

We have lost another ember late last week after we treated the tank.

So it's a watch and wait situation and if we see any fish with symptoms we will remove them. Not to the quarantine tank I hasten to add

Hope it improves for you

AiYn'U

Mine all started with a single neon looking a little reserved (they’re normally very active) and then I thought had some white forming on it, just didn’t look right. Next day dead. Then they started dropping like flies.

my current stock look happy and I’ll keep checking water parameters and doing changes and will look to add down the track but it’s probably good thing as now I’m not overstocked.

I tried a ten gallon tank just recently for my 3yo Vivienne... it did not go well ‍♀ She pulled a chair over to the tank, shredded up some paper, and put it into the tank... then came running into the living room saying, “Mommy! I did it! I did it! I feed the fishies, Mommy!” Oh it was a sight to see lol! She was so proud of herself, and I was pulling bits of paper from nooks and crannies for days. I told her the “baby tank” had to be moved into my room with the “mommy tank” so the fishies could see each other and wouldn’t get lonely lol. Thank goodness my dresser is long enough and strong enough to accommodate a 55 gallon and a 10 gallon tank with ease.

I shouldn’t laugh but that’s pretty funny.

my daughter has been good so far but there’s always the risk! I loved having fish and whilst we are in a smaller place at the moment I thought it would be perfect for her but now I find myself checking on the tank too often I’m obsessed.

 

Tetras are often sensitive indeed. And most are going piranha on dead fish, even conspecifics. So it is very likely they contracted something that way. Happened to my cardinals eating dead otos (and other cardinals) too.

Also your tank is small for quite a lot of fish, so the overcrowding produces stress and stressed fish are more susceptible to disease.

That your cories died from eating any other fish as scavengers it is unusual but doesn't mean anything. They have armour but their actual skin is scaleless so they could have had problems with medication. The Algae eater... maybe for the best, because they easily grow to 6 inches. Wouldn't be surprised if it hit a rock or the glass. They can be twitchy and ram into things.

 

I shouldn’t laugh but that’s pretty funny.

my daughter has been good so far but there’s always the risk! I loved having fish and whilst we are in a smaller place at the moment I thought it would be perfect for her but now I find myself checking on the tank too often I’m obsessed.

Yes. My daughters fish tank was a Christmas present. So to see it go "wrong" has been hard for me to handle. I did everything right. But I didn't quarantine. As soon as I realised it could be NTD I reacted and bought the quarantine tank. It was preowned and wasn't a great expense. I am looking for another to act as an isolation tank for my daughters remaining fish but we're in C19 lockdown currently.

30 years ago when I kept fish I didn't know about NTD. As the fish started to die with no real outward symptoms I turned to my friend Google. I can't say for sure it's NTD. But I can't rule it out. The water quality has always been very good and we tested after each fish died. Nothing to suggest any problems at all. We carried out water changes often. At one point I even thought it could be the water changes that were the problem. It was when we put 8 Black Neon Tetra in and they started dying within days that the penny dropped that most of the fish we had lost were from one shop.

On the up side my daughter knows all about the nitrogen cycle and has done some homework recently based on what's she's learned. She enjoys her fish and I enjoy helping her. Like you I am constant watch for any signs or symptoms. We've managed 8 days now since the last death. The longest we've managed is 7 days so I am ever more vigilant.

The only advice I can offer is never give in. Never

AiYn'U

 

I shouldn’t laugh but that’s pretty funny.

my daughter has been good so far but there’s always the risk! I loved having fish and whilst we are in a smaller place at the moment I thought it would be perfect for her but now I find myself checking on the tank too often I’m obsessed.

Same here lol! I grew up watching my dad with his massive saltwater tank. It was breathtaking, he had a huge lion fish and the works. I can guarantee we caused him grief with that tank. My dad started my fish obsession young, so why not start hers? Lol! She comes in my room 20+ times a day now to check on the fish and to make sure they’re okay. Accidents happen, ya know? There’s not really an accurate way to explain that paper, even if it’s ripped up like flakes, does not make it fish food lol! I mean, she grabs a stick out of the yard and hands it to me saying, “here’s your lunch, Mommy, I made you noodles.” Kids are going to be kids, you just gotta laugh about it and move on.

 

Now my Gourami looks no good, think it looks like Cotton Wool Fungus

 

[I think] NTD does cause secondary conditions. Can you treat the tank?

AiYn'U

 

[I think] NTD does cause secondary conditions. Can you treat the tank?

AiYn'U

That's what i've read, I'm thinking the Dwarf Gourami has had a nibble on one of the dead tetras and gotten themself sick, so thinking it could be secondary.

I've purchased some medication that treats for fungal infections and treated the entire tank as it won't hurt the rest of them that are still left!

Same here lol! I grew up watching my dad with his massive saltwater tank. It was breathtaking, he had a huge lion fish and the works. I can guarantee we caused him grief with that tank. My dad started my fish obsession young, so why not start hers? Lol! She comes in my room 20+ times a day now to check on the fish and to make sure they’re okay. Accidents happen, ya know? There’s not really an accurate way to explain that paper, even if it’s ripped up like flakes, does not make it fish food lol! I mean, she grabs a stick out of the yard and hands it to me saying, “here’s your lunch, Mommy, I made you noodles.” Kids are going to be kids, you just gotta laugh about it and move on.

None of my parents kept fish, so perhaps I'll be like your dad where I'll get some massive tank and then my daughter follows the keen interest as she grows up!

It's a great way to teach responsibilities and they are so calming to watch. I cannot wait till I get a bigger place built and will 100% be looking to have a large tank as a feature for the lounge room built into the structure! Just got to learn more about fish and think ahead.

Kids are hilarious. I've told my daughter the other ones were sick and had to leave, she said "just like Mufasa from lion king was sick and didn't come back", poor thing is still trying to process that one haha

 

That's what i've read, I'm thinking the Dwarf Gourami has had a nibble on one of the dead tetras and gotten themself sick, so thinking it could be secondary.

I've purchased some medication that treats for fungal infections and treated the entire tank as it won't hurt the rest of them that are still left!

If the Gourami has "nibbled" the dead Tetras I think it's likely it has become infected with NTD. If you can "isolate" the gourami that may be beneficial. If you're sure it's NTD (and I am not sure "we've" had NTD) then I suspect from my understanding of the disease that eating dead fish is the carrying mechanism and as such your gourami will be infected. And it needs removing (preferably before it dies, so the spread of the disease is halted). Do you have a quarantine tank? Or if you're sure it's NTD then perhaps you should consider euthanising. Sounds harsh I know. And of course it's catch 22 if it's not NTD then such would be an over-reaction.

I don't know a great deal about NTD. I've treated my daughters tank with an internal parasite medication. This was to make sure I covered the base of "not sure" regarding the diagnosis of NTD. But we have also removed fish as they have died. The tank is very heavily planted and catching a fish in there would simply be impossible. We did consider removing all the plants (see photograph form about a month ago - the plants have grown more since) but have now managed 11 straight days without a death. I don't think we're "out of the woods" and I am, as we discussed, hovering over the tank every 2-3hrs to look for any signs or symptoms.

It hasn't helped with C19 lockdown neither.

11 days ago I was more than fed up with removing dead fish from the tank. Today I am feeling just a little more positive about this. Stick with it ... never give in.

AiYn'U

 

If the Gourami has "nibbled" the dead Tetras I think it's likely it has become infected with NTD. If you can "isolate" the gourami that may be beneficial. If you're sure it's NTD (and I am not sure "we've" had NTD) then I suspect from my understanding of the disease that eating dead fish is the carrying mechanism and as such your gourami will be infected. And it needs removing (preferably before it dies, so the spread of the disease is halted). Do you have a quarantine tank? Or if you're sure it's NTD then perhaps you should consider euthanising. Sounds harsh I know. And of course it's catch 22 if it's not NTD then such would be an over-reaction.

I don't know a great deal about NTD. I've treated my daughters tank with an internal parasite medication. This was to make sure I covered the base of "not sure" regarding the diagnosis of NTD. But we have also removed fish as they have died. The tank is very heavily planted and catching a fish in there would simply be impossible. We did consider removing all the plants (see photograph form about a month ago - the plants have grown more since) but have now managed 11 straight days without a death. I don't think we're "out of the woods" and I am, as we discussed, hovering over the tank every 2-3hrs to look for any signs or symptoms.

It hasn't helped with C19 lockdown neither.

11 days ago I was more than fed up with removing dead fish from the tank. Today I am feeling just a little more positive about this. Stick with it ... never give in.

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Beautiful tank!

As the Platy's and Guppies are still healthy, and only the Gourami is sick i'm going to see if I can bring her back to good health!

Hoping it isn't Tetra disease as there's no cure, but it could very well have been something else.

I've only had 1 day of treatment for fungal and already I've noticed some of the cotton wool white has come away from the Gourami's eyes and off the tips of those whiskers (what are those parts called?)

She is however hanging down the bottom of the tank breathing a little to heavy for my liking so will keep an eye on her, albeit she's eating and moving around at times.

 

I know it may be a trivial question, but did you remember to de-chlorinate the water? It’s a rookie mistake, but I’ve found myself almost forgetting to add Prime to my tanks before re-adding new water. Granted, I’m pregnant and am having major pregnancy brain, but the lethargic behavior, twitches, and gasping reminds me of chlorine poisoning. Has your tap water smelled more chlorinated recently? I know that can happen too, and for that I usually double dose Prime. I’m sorry your tank got decimated. That always sucks.

MAke sure not to add too much prime since it can deplete oxegyn levels(I mean it already does but will be worse if you overdose); there is a video on dechlorinators.

 

MAke sure not to add too much prime since it can deplete oxegyn levels(I mean it already does but will be worse if you overdose); there is a video on dechlorinators.

Thanks for the tip.

I've only used it sparingly when changing over the water, but that's a good point re: oxygen. I don't want to get a bubbler as I've been told that with a closed lid like mine (all in one tank) it can create condensation on the LED lights. So not sure what else I can do if oxygen is an issue?

 

Thanks for the tip.

I've only used it sparingly when changing over the water, but that's a good point re: oxygen. I don't want to get a bubbler as I've been told that with a closed lid like mine (all in one tank) it can create condensation on the LED lights. So not sure what else I can do if oxygen is an issue?

It shouldn't be a very big issue, but I would try to do water changes earlier in the day since plants take up oxegyn at night. Usually its not an issue, some people recommend air pumps but I don't add them and my aeration is pretty minimal already... I think its fine as long as you dose it correctly, which you are so

 

It shouldn't be a very big issue, but I would try to do water changes earlier in the day since plants take up oxegyn at night. Usually its not an issue, some people recommend air pumps but I don't add them and my aeration is pretty minimal already... I think its fine as long as you dose it correctly, which you are so

I'll do a morning water change moving forward that's a great tip.

I've had fish in there for a good 3 - 4 months without issue, only literally last week where it's been decimated so i'm guessing just one of those things where spores pop up (tetra disease, fungal etc) and just run through the tank.

I will keep up the fungal treatment for the recommended 7 days, then do a water change and see where we are at then. Hoping Gourami lasts this time and the others remain healthy.

 

I'll do a morning water change moving forward that's a great tip.

I've had fish in there for a good 3 - 4 months without issue, only literally last week where it's been decimated so i'm guessing just one of those things where spores pop up (tetra disease, fungal etc) and just run through the tank.

I will keep up the fungal treatment for the recommended 7 days, then do a water change and see where we are at then. Hoping Gourami lasts this time and the others remain healthy.

Fish can be pretty weak sometimes, which makes it scary since one mistake and it could mean your fish dying I hope your fish will survive!

 

Beautiful tank!

As the Platy's and Guppies are still healthy, and only the Gourami is sick i'm going to see if I can bring her back to good health!

Hoping it isn't Tetra disease as there's no cure, but it could very well have been something else.

I've only had 1 day of treatment for fungal and already I've noticed some of the cotton wool white has come away from the Gourami's eyes and off the tips of those whiskers (what are those parts called?)

She is however hanging down the bottom of the tank breathing a little to heavy for my liking so will keep an eye on her, albeit she's eating and moving around at times.

Thank you. I am a 57 year old Yorkshireman. I live near Hull. We pronounce it 'Ull . I was diagnosed three years ago with a sleep related breathing disorder. It took 36 years to get the correct diagnosis. After 36 years of being treated with every medication they could throw at me I am now medication free and treated correctly with non invasive ventilation to help me sleep. My condition is congenital and my daughter has a 50% chance of developing it. She will of course be diagnosed within 36 seconds of developing it. She won't have to wait 36 years like I did.

I don't drive an expensive car. I don't have expensive shirts or spend money on expensive anything. Part of that is I'm simply a [tight] Yorkshireman, the other is simply that I want this "condition", this blight on previous lives to end with me. It stops here.

Tonight I've had to remove a JuliI Corydoras from her main tank. It was showing "signs" of NTD. I've had a little drink to calm myself down.

I think you and I share similar values. I genuinely hope you have got it wrong and it's not NTD. I really do. But heavy breathing at the bottom of the tank does "ring bells".

AiY'n'U

Asleep In Yorkshire near 'Ull

Stay safe and well

 

Thank you. I am a 57 year old Yorkshireman. I live near Hull. We pronounce it 'Ull . I was diagnosed three years ago with a sleep related breathing disorder. It took 36 years to get the correct diagnosis. After 36 years of being treated with every medication they could throw at me I am now medication free and treated correctly with non invasive ventilation to help me sleep. My condition is congenital and my daughter has a 50% chance of developing it. She will of course be diagnosed within 36 seconds of developing it. She won't have to wait 36 years like I did.

I don't drive an expensive car. I don't have expensive shirts or spend money on expensive anything. Part of that is I'm simply a [tight] Yorkshireman, the other is simply that I want this "condition", this blight on previous lives to end with me. It stops here.

Tonight I've had to remove a JuliI Corydoras from her main tank. It was showing "signs" of NTD. I've had a little drink to calm myself down.

I think you and I share similar values. I genuinely hope you have got it wrong and it's not NTD. I really do. But heavy breathing at the bottom of the tank does "ring bells".

AiY'n'U

Asleep In Yorkshire near 'Ull

Stay safe and well

I just tested my parameters:

PH - 7.0
Amm - 0.25 (could be 0, hard to tell with colours and i've had to treat tank so will be 0 - 0.25)
Nitrite - 0
Nitrate - 0 (normally anywhere from 0 to 5ppm before water changes).

I'm worried as Nitrate has show 0 for a few days now, in a heavily planted tank is this normal?



My best friend used to date a girl from Hull, she was a firecracker!

I live in Melbourne Australia