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So I'm new to freshwater aquarium keeping. I've been cycling a tank for 5 weeks no added bacteria, fishless cycling simply feeding the tank algae wafers and flake food every other day.
I checked about 3 weeks ago and the the test showed progress but not much, so today for the heck of it I tested again and this is my reading after 5 weeks of fishless cycling.

ammonia 0 nitrate I'm sorry nitrite 0 nitrate between 5 and 10 PPM
could it be true that this tank is actually cycled and if so there's much more to the story but first thing is first
 

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Are those two days the only measurements youve taken? Without measurements every few days it hard to tell...
Keep adding an ammonia source for the next few days, testing daily, and if the ammonia stays at zero, you might be cycled.
 
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Yes I have only taken two tests and I haven't done any water changes until today after my reading. I assumed I didn't really have to worry about water changes being there was no fish in there . that could be a rookie mistake I'm not quite sure, rest assured I have done much research, it's just finding answers to specific questions is a bit difficult . I do appreciate your reply and I will absolutely do what you recommended. I did do a 50% water change today and I will continue to add my food source and test daily for the next probably week or even two just to be on the safe side , if you think that that is something that would work thanks again for your reply
 

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Ms rose said:
Yes I have only taken two tests and I haven't done any water changes until today after my reading I assumed I didn't really have to worry about water changes being there was no fish in there that could be a rookie mistake I'm not quite sure rest assured I have done much research it's just finding you know answers to specific questions as a bit difficult so I do appreciate your reply and I will absolutely do what you recommended I did do a 50% water change today and I will continue to add my food source and test daily for the next probably week or even to just to be on the safe side if you think that that is something that would work thanks again for your reply
The ammonia and nitrate readings need to be zero before the water change (just to be clear).
 

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It sounds like it should be cycled, but you really should test every time you add food so you can follow the changes in ammonia and nitrites over time. Do this for a week or so, and, if your ammonia and nitrites are still 0, you are cycled.
 
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Post removed due to making no sense haha
 

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Ms rose said:
Okay that's what I will do thank you so much for your help in my original post I said there was much more to the story and boy when I tell you there's much more I mean it I'll give you a quick Reader's Digest version started off with lizards to be honest I bought some 10 gallon tanks turn them into terrariums you know I did that whole thing I have three crested geckos all very young and somehow I ended up watching couple YouTube videos about crested geckos and that led into fish somehow now I've always wanted the saltwater aquarium but I knew that it's a hard thing to accomplish and the last thing I want is to kill any living thing even as people say they're just fish in my opinion of fish is a pet which requires care and love I digress I got very interested and I ended up freshwater aquarium one of my into a 10-gallon freshwater aquarium clean water equals happy life Happy Aquarium unfortunately that is not the case and I was unaware of the nitrogen cycle which is why I've never really wanted to keep a freshwater aquarium because they always within the first month as to the research I did the mystery snails the two shrimp okay that's what I will do thank you so much for your help in my original post I said there was much more to the story and boy when I tell you there's much more I mean it I'll give you a quick readers digest version started off with lizards to be honest I bought some 10 gallon tank sternum into terrarium you know I did that whole thing I have three Crested geckos all very young and somehow I ended up watching couple YouTube videos about Crested geckos than that led into fish somehow know if always wanted to saltwater aquarium but I knew that it's a hard thing to accomplish and the last thing I want is to kill any living thing even as people say they're just fish in my opinion of fish is a pet which requires care and love I digress I got very interested and I ended up you know checking out freshwater aquarium that I thought you know what I can do that I'm going to start myself a fresh I'm sorry fresh water aquarium it's that that point that I converted one of my tongue gallon terrarium into a ton gallon freshwater aquarium now as a beginner I'm sure not everybody but majority of beginners assume clean water fish equals happy life happy aquarium unfortunately that is not the case and I was unaware of the nitrogen cycle which is why I've never really wanted to keep a freshwater aquarium because they always die within the first month nevertheless I started one up . This is when I decided 10 gallons was insufficient so I went to my local Petco and I purchased myself a 20-gallon starter kit which came with the heater the hang on the back filter a thermometer a net and some food I brought that home I set it up I got online I started buying plants and of course as a new hobbyist I got very excited to fill my fish tank and I got myself to cherry shrimp I got myself 3 mystery snails and I got myself a pair of green cobra Guppies came in and when they came in the female guppy gave birth that same night to about 30 fry I was unfamiliar with fry a lot of them were eating I immediately jumped into action and put in some fake plants along with my real plans to give them hiding places and after all is said and done I have about 10 left so in the 20 gallon tank I have the two original platies one green cobra guppy male there fry the mystery snails in the shrimp that tank right now is at 0 parts per million ammonia .25 PPM nitrite and between 5 and 10 nitrates oh I do water changes of 5 gallons per day I also dose with the safe seachem safe every time and I also went out and I bought a penguin a hang on the back penguin 350 filter with the double wheel I also purchased two adjustable sunsun 500 W. Which I know is the chewy com informed me that it will work for the not so much of a load in the 20 gallon and it's not overcrowded I just want to make sure because I really has nothing to do with the lifespan of the fish so it might be a long story I'm sorry that you had to listen to it there is decor and live plants in there to help with but I figured it would just be better without having any so thank you for your time and I will keep you updated anybody else with any suggestions or recommendations I'm more than happy to listen to and try

I'm sorry I was just reading through that and I'm talking to text so it overlapped and some of this doesn't make sense so any questions you have I will be happy to answer

Wow lol this was so bad it makes no science I hope you aren't mad you had such a long comment and not be able to read it lol I feel foolish I figured with such a large story talk to text was the way to go, but no. C I'm already learning ****

Allow me to simplify I have the 10 gallon which was what my original question was regarding I then purchased a 20-gallon starter kit when I got that home I got online and started purchasing plants and being a new fish hobbyist wanted to stock my tank I got to red cherry shrimp 3 mystery snails and a green cobra guppy pair the next day my fish arrived all well the female gave birth about 10 minutes after I unpacked her and as I said being knew I had no information on Fry so many of the 30 got eaten almost immediately so I jumped into action and I added some fake plants along with my life plans to save what I could at the end of the day I still have 10 green cobra guppy fry the female unfortunately passed to my response to get rid of the ich that my tank inherited very quickly so I did some more research and I wanted to do the heat treatment but I also wanted a better filtration system so I purchased a penguin hang on the back filter 350 double wheel and a sunsun 500 watt adjustable heater fully submersible I am currently on day 8 of the temperature between 86 and 88 to rid my fish of the ick I took all the gravel out once I noticed the ick to be safe so I now have a bare bottom but I do have Driftwood Malaysian driftwood and decorations along with live and fake plants my 20 gallon tank is currently reading ammonia 0 nitrite .25 nitrate 5 to 10 so I do a 5-gallon water change everyday and dose with safe by seachem that stinky egg powder haha they do not have any white spots and I do gravel vac the bare bottom of debris every single day during my 5-gallon water change so for a 20 gallon 5 gallon is about 1/3 which is what I read I should do so my goal is to get all the fish from the 20 gallon and put them in the 10-gallon for quarantine but want them to go into a cycled tank.
I got it, the second time (except) the ick part. I picked that up the third time through.:)

I’m not an ick expert, never had it (knocking on wood) but everything i’ve read, heat is the best wasto go.

I think you are cycled based on the information you gave but would verify via tests every other day while continuing to feed.
 

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I am surprised you didn’t get more responses.

Very knowledgeable folks here.

Maybe your original post was too long.

If you just state problem and give tank size, parameters (ammonia, nitrites,nitrates) and stocking, you should get immediate response.

You can add the other details later.
 
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Ok thanx for the tip. I was surprised to but my story was crazy long and made zero sence lol im still at ammonia 0 nitrite 0 and nitrate 5 to 10 in my 10 gallon no fish, feeding every other day flakes and algae waffers. Been testing as he stated daily and it's staying the same so I'm just going to keep doing what I'm doing for another week or so to get a well established colony before adding my fish. Thank you for the tip

I just deleted my long non sense making post, maybe I'll get more responses now haha
 

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With zero ammonia, zero nitrites, and a low nitrate reading, your tank looks fully cycled.

One suggestion. It's very difficult to track what you're trying to say when you don't use periods and use run-on sentences. It looks jumbled and is difficult for the reader to figure it out. I'm not trying to be critical, but you'd probably have better luck if you were a little more careful with your writing.
 
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Lol i understand, i generally use talk to text so thats why its that way. But i havnt been having much luck with that so i started typing on my own. Thanx for the advice and assurance .

WhoKnows said:
With zero ammonia, zero nitrites, and a low nitrate reading, your tank looks fully cycled.

One suggestion. It's very difficult to track what you're trying to say when you don't use periods and use run-on sentences. It looks jumbled and is difficult for the reader to figure it out. I'm not trying to be critical, but you'd probably have better luck if you were a little more careful with your writing.
I went threw and edited my post. I understand what you meant, was very hard to read. Thanx for the tip

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The ammonia and nitrate readings need to be zero before the water change (just to be clear).
Yes they were . And the next day, still the same. Hadn't water changes again. Tm is the wc day
 

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I am sorry I hadn't found your thread before now.

If you have only ran the tests twice during these past 5 weeks you can't know if you have ever had ammonia and/or nitrites so can't know for sure whether or not you are actually cycled.

Have you tested your source water for nitrates? If you have and have not found nitrates there you can safely assume that your tank produced them. It is hard to control the amount of ammonia while using fish food as an ammonia source because you have to allow it to basically rot before it forms ammonia.

If you could get some pure ammonia you could easily find out of your tank in actually cycled. You would want to do a really complete gravel vac to get all of the fish food you have added out of there.

Once you have done that you could dose the tank up to 2ppm with ammonia. If the tank processes that ammonia within 24 hours you can be sure your tank is in fact cycled.

Do that each day for a week and at the end of the week you can be assured that your tank is cycled. At this point your nitrates will probably be off the chart but that can be taken care of with water changes. Get those nitrates down and you will be ready for fish.
 
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That's okay, I appreciate you responding now. So here's what happened, I set it up, I filled it with dechlorinated water ,and I waited . I fed it every other day. about two weeks later I tested it, and ammonia was high, nitrites we're High, no nitrates. So I continue doing what I was doing feeding the tank, and three weeks later I did another test, that's when it was ammonia 0 nitrite 0 nitrate 5 to 10. That's when I wrote my original post to see if my tank was cycled. In which I did get a response from a lovely member who said basically the same thing you are, since my original post I do test every day and feed every other day. before and after water changes, the parameters are ammonia 0 nitrite 0 nitrate 5 to 20. I'm doing weekly water changes on it, and I do not have gravel in the tank it just has some lava rock and some hornwort . do you still feel that I should do the ammonia test or just continue doing what I'm doing for another week or so? If you do feel that I should do the ammonia I will absolutely try that and thank you for coming LOL
 

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Thank you for the clarification. No, I don't think the ammonia test is necessary. I sounds to me like you are cycled and are definitely ready for fish. Congratulations !!!!
 
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Yay thank you a bunch!!I'm still going to give it another week ish to get a good colony going.
 

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Ms rose said:
Yay thank you a bunch!!I'm still going to give it another week ish to get a good colony going.
Sounds like a plan
 
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