Tales From An Aquarium-Phobic New Owner

xannychan
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Hello! I thought I would share my fishstory so far - I think it might be of interest to some, and for others it will be a lengthy and mildly amusing diversion. Just a note: this is a BIG post.

I'm fantastically new to this hobby, and with good reason: I have had a crippling phobia of aquariums for a large part of my life (I have no idea what its origins are, but I have several stories from my childhood as a result of it). Partially on a whim, partially out of stout-hearted bravery, and partially out of a self-righteous desire to help a terribly mistreated creature, I rescued my bettas from a six-year-old's birthday party I was catering for. Ten of these bettas were individually housed in the tiny urine-test-sized cups from PetSmart to be shaken about and poked at by children as party favors; seven were left behind after the party, completely forgotten about by the families and host. On that fateful day, I brought back two small specimens, intending in my ignorance to give them a bigger tiny box to call home. In the nerve-wracking ride home, the larger royal blue, adequately named Sapphire by my creative mother, sat listlessly at the bottom of the jar. Opal, Sapphire's dull pastel pink brethren, swam in lazy circles, seemingly exhausted. Having done no research, I was absolutely sure I could handle these two sad fish...as long as they stayed in smallish containers.

And small containers they were to have - tanks exceeding 5 gallons give me a permanent case of the willies if I'm anywhere within sight. You see, a major part of my phobia kicks in with the presence of large expanses of dark open water. The illusion of vastness that comes with larger tanks may be better for my fish, but what about my comfort?! With a little advice from cousins who had maintained a goldfish for a couple months a million years ago, I filled two half-gallon open jars with warm water, treated with Tetra SafeStart (TSS), and plopped them in. Of course, being the thoughtful fishmom that I am, they had no substrate, no filter, and no decor, just some room to swim around. They're much happier now, I said to myself. Friends and family agreed - not only was I facing my fears, I had given these guys a new chance at life! I kept them by the window with indirect sunlight to keep their water relatively warm, fed them every other day for a week or so, and all seemed well. Opal's silvery iridescence and color began to return rather dramatically, and Sapphire began to be a little more active - though both continued to hang out at the bottom of their vases, and the water got progressively cloudier. I'll change the water soon, I promised them. They bobbed to the surface and blubbed happily in response with what I imagined was tempered excitement. I fed them some extra dried shrimps for being so amiable, and felt promptly insulted when they were left to float undisturbed. Too afraid of my fish and their containers full of water, I shied away from fishing the bits out. Maybe they'll want it later. I had that mentality a lot: I looked at my fishkids with equal parts maternal joy and crippling fear.

Two weeks passed; it was busy at work and summer kept me out of the house often. In the meantime, I figured it was time for an upgrade. A bigger tank! Maybe a filter? I had bought a bag of gravel but had forgotten to pour some in with the previous water change (I changed the water completely once a week in the two weeks I'd had them). I'll get a cheap gallon-sized tank from Walmart - that hexagonal one with the changing LED lights and bubblers at the bottom! It even has a filter and a lid with a feeding hole, and I can afford to let them each have one. I'll get it with my next paycheck. Sadly, I didn't act quickly enough. On payday, I strolled home from work with a check in my fist with the intent of waving my prize for Sapper&Pal to see. I checked in on my open jars of increasing wonder - to find myself face-to-face with Opal lying dead and dry on the windowsill in a beam of sunlight. Needless to say, I screeched as I pulled my hair and tore my clothing. Sapphire looked on, his increasingly ragged fins waving mournfully. In my five minutes of research, I had overlooked the fact that bettas are great jumpers. I brought home sad suicidal fish, I wailed. I did this to him! I'm a horrible mom! Within the next few days, I got that fantastic new tank, set it up with all the hardware, and let 'er rip. In typical Quality Walmart Fashion, however, the kit was missing the lid. I dropped the water level a bit in hopes that Saps wouldn't jump, and crossed my fingers. With all the bits and bobs running as advertised and the water conditioned with TSS, I took a deep breath and moved him over from his HorrorJar with some of the water from the jar and hoped he liked his bubbles and lights. This time, getting close to Sapphire was a little easier.

Of course, I hadn't know that bettas are also averse to currents, so he avoided the bubble streams when he could in the tiny space. It was hooked up to the same connector as the filter, so the best I could do was minimize the stream from the airstone as best I could until I could properly disconnect it. I had also gotten him a big merry silicon plant for him to explore and hide in, and he dragged his fins about in that with relief, even as they tugged. The changing lights seemed to make him weary after a while, so I only turned it on for a little at a time. He seemed to flare his fins and butt at the corners, where I noticed he might be able to see his reflection somewhat. I was glad, though, that the lid was missing; had I not known better, I'd have stuck that thing on and suffocated him. The filter ran fit as a fiddle, though Sapphire hung around it a little close for comfort. Still, I slept a little better at night knowing he was doing at least somewhat more comfortable. For the past week or so, he's been pretty merry, and his fins were starting to get a little less ragged (I suspected he had been nibbling his fins with stress, and was worried the plant might hurt him more)!

At this point, I began to do more research and learned about the nitrogen cycle, about ideal tank sizes, about necessary supplies for management and treatment. Essentially, I learned I was a terrible fishmom, and continue to be! This weekend I planned on getting a testing kit to be sure the water is cycling, and getting him a proper heater to maintain temperatures. Once again too late, though, I woke up this morning to find a big chunk of his caudal fin torn and missing. I began to panic again, and removed all the culprits I could, including his big happy plant and turning off the internal filter for a little bit. I suspect the filter's intake is the main bad guy. I'm beginning now to plan for a yet bigger tank (less corners too) with proper substrate and silk decor (can't maintain live plants), a proper water heater, thermometer, and testing kit, better food than his boring old flakes eventually, and invest in a different filtration system with my next paycheck. I'll be changing out his water again soon, since the general advice for shredded fins is warm, pristine water.

So, my question to anyone who had the patience to sit through my story: what should I go for first? I have neither a large budget nor can I step foot in the LFS - I'm not sure everyone understands the nature of phobias and the process of coping with my new aquatic friend, but it has not been easy. I'm almost entirely sure none of you have had this issue, but the last time I was told to 'get over it' and forced into an aquatic museum similarly lined with dark tanks full of strange creatures, I fainted and had to be dragged off the premises unconscious. I might make mistakes and I might not be the ideal candidate, but I'm trying to learn and do everything I can to make it happen. I'm hoping that the more invested I am in caring for Sapphire the better I can handle my phobia as well. Just lurking on the forum has taught me a lot and given me more appreciation for and less fear of aquariums. For now, I am planning to prioritize a testing kit and filter, a new heater, a new tank (again, a max of ~5 gallons sadly), and new food in that order; any advice for a newbie like me that has to do her ordering online?
 
Tonia
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HI Xanny and Welcome to fishlore!!!

With a max size of 5 gallons, you should still be able to provide a nice home for Sapphire. I'm glad you were willing to rescue him and I'm sure he appreciates your efforts to provide a nice home for him. The heater you want will be a smaller one, you should find these at most regular pet stores, you won't have to go to a large fish store, so that might help. I would avoid the heaters from walmart.. they tend to be pre-set and can malfunction.

You might wish to consider looking into some Prime. It is available from Amazon along with multiple other online shopping stores. Dr's Foster and Smith have a decent supply of fish products at a reasonable rate.

I know there will be many others coming in with great advice also.
 
ericmalmquist
  • #3
Walmart sells a 5 gallon kit which would be plenty of room for your betta friend. It includes a 5 gallon tank, filter, and hood/light combo. It's about 28$. Of course then you'd need gravel and a few fake plants, but walmart also has those for cheap prices.

Your betta could probably go a couple days without a heater, as long as the room is at a nice temp. Though others may have input as to whether or not bettas need heaters. I'm unsure as I've never kept a betta.

Just be careful as you should never keep more than one betta in such a small tank. If you do wish to have more than one you'll need a tank divider
 
horsin1787
  • #4
I have this heater

and this filter

I like both for my betta boy so far the heater is adjustable and goes up to 89? I think. Way more than you need for a betta though. The filter is also adjustable and my betta boy has no issue with the soft flow. Plus the spray bar ripples the water surface sufficiently, so no need for aeration.

I like the heater a lot because it is so small and because it is full submersible. For a tank with less corners, just make sure you have it more wide than tall. Bettas like to be able to reach the surface easily, but also like to lounge around on the bottom or on plants.
 
xannychan
  • Thread Starter
  • #5
Wow, thanks so much for the support everyone! I think he'll be alright without a heater for now since it's summer. With some thought, I still want to prioritize a new filter and a new tank. Until I get them (probably in the next week or so), should I do another water change or will that stress his damaged fins more? Is the TSS an appropriate conditioner for my tank?
 
shelleyd2008
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The TSS is not a conditioner, it's a bacteria additive used to help cycle the tank. If you are limited to shopping at walmart you can get a product called Stress Coat. It removes chlorine and chloramines and makes tap water 'safe' for fish. You should wait to do a water change until you are able to get a dechlorinator for his water.

I also second the 5-gallon walmart tank kit. Sometimes you can get those with decor and all. Walmart has that has filter, light, 5 gallon tank, and filter cartridge for $25. However, you can also order this same kit in a 'bundle' that comes with decor at an extra charge: . The bundle also has a different style 5 gallon tank with light and filter.

It's too bad you aren't comfortable with a 10-gallon because those kits are only like $5 more than the 5 gallon kits
 
hopeful fish
  • #7
I have this heater

and this filter

OMG!!! I have the exact same filter and heater! I love them both. He will definitally be OK without the heater for the summer (I am having trouble keeping my tank cool enough), but make sure you get a thermometer to check on the temp. Betta's can definitely be happy in a 5 gallon tank!

If you get the filter above, and realize that it is slowly getting a weaker and weaker outflow, just take out the media and rinse it. I did not know to do this, and went so far as to complain to the company for a faulty product before I realized that the sponge was clogged. I did get a new free filter, though, and I still get to keep the not broken "broken" one.....

If I were you, I would do a (full) water change. As long as the temperature is the same, in an uncycled tank, the more changes the merrier! Make sure you use a water conditioner though. Clean water will help his fins heal faster, so no worries about stressing them.

As for a new tank, a five gallon at my LFS is ~$10. They are also on the outer isles, so maybe you could avoid seeing the big tanks in the middle? Maybe you have a friend you could send in for you? You could also check out craigslist and ebay.

I don't know much about TSS, but it is not a water conditioner. It is a dose of beneficial bacteria to kick-start the tank. Someone else could tell you more about using TSS, but if you want a good water conditioner, Seachem Prime is wonderful!

Good luck!
 
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mrHDpants
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Well everybody has given you really good advice so I have nothing to add on that front but I did want to give you props for confronting a phobia in such major way. Exposure is the best way to treat a phobia but it's not easy to do so kudos to you!
 
Fishgirl89
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I'm not good with bettas....my last post proves that. But I'm happy you're getting into fish keeping and facing your fears! good luck
 
xannychan
  • Thread Starter
  • #10
It's too bad you aren't comfortable with a 10-gallon because those kits are only like $5 more than the 5 gallon kits

I know! I wish I could tolerate larger tanks. Conceptually they are majestic things, and I would love to have room for my guy to zip around in. Phobias can be so selfish!

I will definitely be getting the suggested filter - it seems worth the $16 if it reduces the risk of eating up his fins and keeps the tank clean and moving. I'll wait on the heater for now until I have a little more in the bank. I'm already getting Stress Coat to help him grow back his fins (I hope this suffices as a proficient conditioner), plus a master test kit; the total cost of everything I'm getting to bring him back to health pretty much maxes out my spending money for the month! Of course, he's worth it *fabulous L'Oreal fin toss*. I've already decided I have to drop a pretty penny on all the supplies that I need, so I'll have them down the road. I see myself keeping at least a betta around for company and to remind to be brave like him after his ordeal! Any tips on a good test kit?
 
Fishgirl89
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I have the API Master test kit. And a lot of people here recommend it. It has all the tests you'll need. PH, ammonia, nitrite and nitrate
 
horsin1787
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Seconding the master test kit by apI an aquarium to consider might be a bookshelf one? He could zip around in that to his hearts content, but they're nice and short so have a smaller water volume. I think they're 6.5 gallons though.... :/
 
xannychan
  • Thread Starter
  • #13
I have the API Master test kit. And a lot of people here recommend it. It has all the tests you'll need. PH, ammonia, nitrite and nitrate

Yeah, that seems to be the general consensus. It's the one I have in my shopping cart now. It looks discounted on Amazon, in any case!

Seconding the master test kit by apI an aquarium to consider might be a bookshelf one? He could zip around in that to his hearts content, but they're nice and short so have a smaller water volume. I think they're 6.5 gallons though.... :/

That's actually not a bad idea, and might be a good upgrade in the future - perhaps as long as I have sight of the bookshelf backing it, it won't be as frightening? I like that it's more shallow - tons of places for him to pop up and breathe if he needs it if I can't keep it oxygenated to his liking. I'll just have to find a bookshelf for it now.

Also, thanks so much for your support everyone! It's a pretty embarrassing phobia honestly, and has prevented me from various social events - no joke. I came across this shower curtain once, and had a near meltdown it surprised and horrified me so much. Friends with fish would often tease me with their wares by putting tanks and reef backdrops (which have the dark blue expanse I can't tolerate) in unexpected places (toilet bowls, refrigerators, coat closets, taped to my face in the morning, in my sock drawer). I have refused some parties and grocery stores due to my knowledge of the presence of 55-100 gallon tanks. Animal Planet specials give me the crawlies. As such, small, clear tanks that don't suggest a big bad ocean are tolerable and, lately, wonderful. Dark crevices and strange shapes that loom with flitting, inky mystery incites me hair-raising panic. That said, I know it's all mentality, and I won't let it crush me anymore! So I'll take it slow, 'cause I won't be bested by my own little betta.
 
horsin1787
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I kind of wish I had done the bookshelf one rather than the cube myself. I think he would appreciate being able to swim around and check things out. They just seem like the perfect betta shape to me. Long, and short All the ones I have had like to swim around and check things out.
 
jileha
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I also second the 5-gallon walmart tank kit. Sometimes you can get those with decor and all. Walmart has that has filter, light, 5 gallon tank, and filter cartridge for $25. However, you can also order this same kit in a 'bundle' that comes with decor at an extra charge: . The bundle also has a different style 5 gallon tank with light and filter.

It's too bad you aren't comfortable with a 10-gallon because those kits are only like $5 more than the 5 gallon kits

I wouldn't go with decor you can't pick out yourself. For a betta, you should only get silk or live plants amd check every piece of decoration for sharp edges as these and plastic plants can easily shred his fins. Feel each decoration with your hand. if you feel sharp edges or points that would rip panty hose, it could also rip your betta's fins. Stay away from them. also avoid decoration with smallish holes or openings as bettas like to squeeze in and through very small spaces and sometimes get stuck or hurt.
 
Lilibeth_Seasong
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I just want to hug you! This is a wonderful and brave thing you are doing!

I have a male crowntail betta, so I have a special place in my heart for the little guys. Everyone is giving you great advice. I think the bookshelf aquarium would be nice. I would like to have one myself. Maybe further down the road you will be able to handle a ten gallon. I have one for a quarantine tank, and was quite surprised with the size. It seems about the same size as my five gallon! If you filled it with lots of plants and stuff and maybe put it in a bookshelf or something with sides so you only see the front, you might be okay with it.

Happy betta keeping!

P.S. I thoroughly enjoyed reading your story. You are a good writer, really bringing the reading in with your choice of words.
 
Lyfeoffishing
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Xannychan I love the fact that you are giving the betta a fighting chance! And at the same time facing one of your phobias head on! As for me I am totaly horrified or spiders and I will never rescue a tarantula in my life no matter what lol.

And while you may think your phobia is embarrassing I totally see where you are coming from. I am a marine biology student and there are plenty of reasons to be worried about the open ocean although many an average human will never encounter. And I do ensure that you shouldn't fear the ocean but maybe it would help you to further inform yourself of the most diverse ecosystem in the world.

Once again I am happy you are giving that betta a good home the best you can!
 
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Fishgirl89
  • #18
Yeah, that seems to be the general consensus. It's the one I have in my shopping cart now. It looks discounted on Amazon, in any case!



That's actually not a bad idea, and might be a good upgrade in the future - perhaps as long as I have sight of the bookshelf backing it, it won't be as frightening? I like that it's more shallow - tons of places for him to pop up and breathe if he needs it if I can't keep it oxygenated to his liking. I'll just have to find a bookshelf for it now.

Also, thanks so much for your support everyone! It's a pretty embarrassing phobia honestly, and has prevented me from various social events - no joke. I came across this shower curtain once, and had a near meltdown it surprised and horrified me so much. Friends with fish would often tease me with their wares by putting tanks and reef backdrops (which have the dark blue expanse I can't tolerate) in unexpected places (toilet bowls, refrigerators, coat closets, taped to my face in the morning, in my sock drawer). I have refused some parties and grocery stores due to my knowledge of the presence of 55-100 gallon tanks. Animal Planet specials give me the crawlies. As such, small, clear tanks that don't suggest a big bad ocean are tolerable and, lately, wonderful. Dark crevices and strange shapes that loom with flitting, inky mystery incites me hair-raising panic. That said, I know it's all mentality, and I won't let it crush me anymore! So I'll take it slow, 'cause I won't be bested by my own little betta.

I got mine from amazon too! It was way cheaper than the petshop
 
lance danio
  • #19
Most LFS should be investigated in what they are selling in the way of fish and the conditions they are living in.
 
Terra
  • #20
Kudos to you xannychan. Your betta can't talk, but i'm sure he'd give you a big "thank you" and hug if he could.

I'll also +1 the suggestion for the Walmart 5 gallon tanks. I have 3 of them now with 3 happy bettas inside. The filters they (the aquaculture brand one) come with ARE too strong for wimpy bettas, but I cut up a 2 liter soda bottle and made a DIY baffle for it and they're fine with the flow now.

One thing you can do, and it might even help you in the long run, is get yourself an easy low maintenance live plant or two for the tank. You can replace those incandescent bulbs the hoods come with using a 10-15 watt CFL bulb. Get one in the "daylight" or 6500K-6700K range for color temperature. This will be plenty good enough for many plants. Something nice like a java fern or anubias will make a nice place for your betta to sleep, AND keep his water cleaner for him to live in by soaking up nitrates. Low-light plants like that grow slow, so they don't really need extra fertilizing or co2 injection. Live plants won't rip their fins either. But most importantly, the presence of living plants in there make my tanks feel so much more normal. The same nurturing instinct that compelled you to nibble at the edges of your phobia to take care of that living creature could just kick in for the plant too. Aquariums filled with green, healthy, gently swaying plants are very far from the dark, vast chasms of the unknown that scare you with pet store/large tanks.
 
xannychan
  • Thread Starter
  • #22
Xannychan I love the fact that you are giving the betta a fighting chance! And at the same time facing one of your phobias head on! As for me I am totaly horrified or spiders and I will never rescue a tarantula in my life no matter what lol.

And while you may think your phobia is embarrassing I totally see where you are coming from. I am a marine biology student and there are plenty of reasons to be worried about the open ocean although many an average human will never encounter. And I do ensure that you shouldn't fear the ocean but maybe it would help you to further inform yourself of the most diverse ecosystem in the world.

Hah, I am actually rather fond of spiders! Tarantulas especially can be pretty friendly, and spiders make great exterminators for pest problems. That said, I appreciate the advice. Just to clarify my phobia a bit, I find the creatures of the deep to actually be pretty cool 'conceptually'. They're my monsters under the bed, if you will; I know there's nothing there to be afraid of, and in life I can handle the gap between my conceptualization and reality. It's just junk under my bed, or a dust bunny with a horror movie afterglow, and is certainly safely contained in my imagination. Similarly, aquariums are just little fish dudes hanging out in a box full of stuff for them to be happy in, doing their own thing. For me, though, there's something unnatural (ironic, I know) about their unfamiliar bright colors and strange shapes, and about the surreal insecurity of full exposure in dark, unfamiliar waters; coral reefs are my spires of nightmare. Even so, it doesn't stop me from thinking that the creatures themselves are as fascinating as any old land-grubber, and are capable of majesty and grace unachievable to hunkering human limbs.

Of course, I've been reading this forum and articles as much as I can, so there's still plenty for me to learn!!

One thing you can do, and it might even help you in the long run, is get yourself an easy low maintenance live plant or two for the tank. You can replace those incandescent bulbs the hoods come with using a 10-15 watt CFL bulb. Get one in the "daylight" or 6500K-6700K range for color temperature. This will be plenty good enough for many plants. Something nice like a java fern or anubias will make a nice place for your betta to sleep, AND keep his water cleaner for him to live in by soaking up nitrates. Low-light plants like that grow slow, so they don't really need extra fertilizing or co2 injection. Live plants won't rip their fins either. But most importantly, the presence of living plants in there make my tanks feel so much more normal. The same nurturing instinct that compelled you to nibble at the edges of your phobia to take care of that living creature could just kick in for the plant too. Aquariums filled with green, healthy, gently swaying plants are very far from the dark, vast chasms of the unknown that scare you with pet store/large tanks.

Wow, I had always been under the impression that a live plant would require a ton of upkeep and equipment I couldn't invest in. This sounds far more feasible than other plant plans I've seen! You may very well be right about having live plants temper the unfamiliarity. How would I get a planted tank like this get started? Would it work with the Stress Coat conditioner, and would I be able to still use TSS to get my cycle started?
 
CoryCats
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I'm glad you are willing to fight your fears to save your new little friend, I'm sure fighting the phobia is difficult but I know your finned friend appreciates it pPant wise I would suggest Marino moss balls, they're cute (to me anyway haha) and require very little upkeep. Just roll them over once in awhile so they don't get brown and flat on one side (and that can even be done with the gravel vacuum or a stick so you don't have to put your hand in the tank ) the one thing to be careful of with plants is snails that can hitch hike their way in . I get my marimos from petsmart because in my area they have them in individual cups next to where they keep their bettas so they are less likely to have snails (I haven't had any pest snails from Petsmart plant, but I never buy from their display tanks, only from the plastic tubes or cups) my bettas love their marimos they even 'hug' them sometimes lol another plant I've had good luck with is Anubis that I got in the plastic tubes from petsmart. Just make sure with the tubes that you look on the package some of their plants are only "semi-submergiable" and will die when fully submergible.
 
psalm18.2
  • #24
Thank you for sharing. My bettas have always had 5 gallon tanks and they love it.

You're story is inspiring and so encouraging. I'm so thankful you were brave enough to share with us.
 
hopeful fish
  • #25
I second the anubias, java fern, and marimo moss plants. They are all so low-maintenance. For these plants, all you need is water and a 6500K light. For a five gallon, go with a 10 watt lightbulb. I stuck a java fern in my new plant, and it is already having "babies"! If you get the anubias plant, though, make sure you get the anubias "nana", because it is smaller. If you want a REALLY small anubias, you can get the anubias var nana "petite". These never get any bigger than a child's palm!
 
Terra
  • #26
Here's an example of one of my betta tanks. This is a 5 gallon with plants and a "Coralife Colormax" 10 watt cfl bulb. You don't need to get one of those bulbs, I didn't know better when I paid $8-9 for it. You can just get the 6500K ones from Walmart for a couple bucks.

 
clydeman
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I would stay away from walmart. Dont everbody come down on me now. If u have a petsmart go there instead. If u can handle it, get a 10 gallon starter kit and a tank divider. There u have 2 , 5 gallon tanks all at once. Moss balls r great if u don't have a green thumb, they r just fun. I have my ten gallon set up like 2 separate tanks with different substrate and plants both live and silk. Good luck with whatever u decide.
 
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Terra
  • #28
My nearest Petco is 30 miles away, my nearest Petsmart is 60 miles away. There is a Petland nearby that I purchased some of my fish from, but their aquariums are about 10x higher priced than Walmart's. Why stay away from Walmart?
 
lance danio
  • #29
Because their fish are inferior.
 
Lilibeth_Seasong
  • #30
My nearest Petco is 30 miles away, my nearest Petsmart is 60 miles away. There is a Petland nearby that I purchased some of my fish from, but their aquariums are about 10x higher priced than Walmart's. Why stay away from Walmart?
Just because of the poor care they give their livestock. I have heard they only keep live fish to drive up the sales in the aquarium equipment department.
 
horsin1787
  • #31
The walmart here is infested with velvet. I will NEVER get fish from walmart again. There are always dead ones, bettas are all full of yuck, and the tanks look like crud.
 
Terra
  • #32
The vast majority of Walmarts (mine included) have no live animals in them. I bought aquariums there... not fish.
 
xannychan
  • Thread Starter
  • #33
pPant wise I would suggest Marino moss balls, they're cute (to me anyway haha) and require very little upkeep. Just roll them over once in awhile so they don't get brown and flat on one side (and that can even be done with the gravel vacuum or a stick so you don't have to put your hand in the tank ) the one thing to be careful of with plants is snails that can hitch hike their way in . I get my marimos from petsmart because in my area they have them in individual cups next to where they keep their bettas so they are less likely to have snails (I haven't had any pest snails from Petsmart plant, but I never buy from their display tanks, only from the plastic tubes or cups) my bettas love their marimos they even 'hug' them sometimes lol another plant I've had good luck with is Anubis that I got in the plastic tubes from petsmart. Just make sure with the tubes that you look on the package some of their plants are only "semi-submergiable" and will die when fully submergible.

These are all definitely on my list. I wouldn't have known to avoid the displays - I would have thought those would be safer because I can actually "see" their condition. Tells you what I know d: Speaking of snails, has anyone here had any success keeping snails with their betta dudes? Maybe just one to keep my tank clean while the snail eats up the junk Saps leaves behind? I've spent most of my life trailing salt for them to die on, and I think I need to repent for my life of snail murder.

I stuck a java fern in my new plant, and it is already having "babies"! If you get the anubias plant, though, make sure you get the anubias "nana", because it is smaller. If you want a REALLY small anubias, you can get the anubias var nana "petite". These never get any bigger than a child's palm!

Oh gosh, the petites are so cute adhflakdfaljdfa. Is there any worry that my plants might be "too successful" and grow too big? Or are they slow-growing enough that I won't need to worry until my next upgrade?

a very cool video

Oh wow, that is a fabulous tank for a beautiful betta !

In general, are there any landscaping tips you folks can give for a planted tank? of course I want to make as natural as possible, with lots of space for him to hide around in; should I line the back, or keep them off to the side? Or does it not matter at all? I've noticed some neat contraptions like a cute , which I imagine my plants could function as when they get big enough. Any tips on getting him a comfy place to sleep with some cheap decor?

I've never seen any live animals at my local Walmart, in any case. I wouldn't buy their fish anyhow - I probably would never make it into that section of the store if I went at all!
 
horsin1787
  • #34
I would recommend a freshwater nerite snail for him-excellent algae eaters, but they can leave eggs everywhere if it's a female. The don't hatch in freshwater though. MS (mystery aka apple snail) are too big for a 5 gall (imo) and don't do much algae eating, but they do eat dead leaves and clean up uneaten food. You could keep one of those. Other than those two, the rest breed to easy for me...

I do have mts, (Malaysian trumpet snail) they also breed easy. They clean up uneaten food, dead leaves, and some algae (still not as good as a nerite). You will mostly never see them unless you put an assassin snail in with them or have no fish in there.

For the plants outgrowing the tank, the ones suggested (anubias, java fern, moss balls) are very slow growing. So you won't be needing to prune them much. Stem plants (water wisteria, water sprite) do grow a lot, but make nice cover. You would probably need to trim them once, maybe twice a week depending on nutrients in the water. Very hard to kill though. Trimming stems are easy, just a quick snip or pinch and you're done.

The way I have mine set up is:
Sand substrate (which is fine for low light plants, as is gravel, but sand is easier (imo) to root plants in.)
Driftwood (looks great with anubias/java fern rooted on it-it also leeches tannins into the water which betta like.)
I have plants everywhere.


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water wisteria on the right.

I will do my betta boy's tonight and toss a picture here.
 
xannychan
  • Thread Starter
  • #35
Another panic attack. I generally try to turn on the filter only when I'm around to supervise Saps since he's a bit dumb and likes to hang out by sites of trauma until I my new equipment. It was turned on while I was out by well-meaning family and I came back to find another big hunk of his tail missing and my tank in disarray. I don't have a pic of previous damage, but I can tell you he had most of the top half of his tail, now torn off. I'm getting all my new material this Friday; I hope he'll make it til then. Please excuse the current state of my tank, the airstone must have been yanked in the process of turning on/off the filter. I'm also now noticing his analfins are quite rough as well - am I using gravel that's too sharp???? Blargh!!

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winglessicarus
  • #36
Is it possible he has fin rot, and the fins aren't being torn but are simply rotting away?

My first instinct is to call CoryCats in, as they know a lot about bettas and they might be able to identify from that picture if it appears at all like fin rot or fin melt.

This has gotten to be quite a thread, so I apologize if someone already mentioned it but I noticed some discussion about the difference between TSS and conditioners... however I didn't actually see anyone mention that you need to wait 24 hours or so after adding a conditioner to use TSS.

When you set up your new tank for him, have everything running with fresh clean water and dose with conditioner. Wait 24 hours before adding a full bottle of TSS, if the water doesn't cloud up you can add him shortly after the TSS - if the water clouds up wait for it to clear, as I've been told the cloudiness indicates a bacterial bloom, which limits how much oxygen is in the tank.

Lastly, I would suggest anubias on the live plant front. They're great floaters, and a floating plant is the least maintenance plant ever. I would suggest marimo as well, however as mentioned above they require being rolled and cared for a bit or they can turn brown. As that involves reaching into the tank to maintain them, something that seems like no big deal to us might be a little harder for you to do with your phobia. If it's within your comfort level and you find real marmio though, go for it!

I think that covered everything I wanted to mention. Good luck with your little guy!
 
CoryCats
  • #37
I was wondering the same thing, are you sure it is the filter and not fin rot? I would suggest leaving the filter on all the time so the BB have a constant supply of ammonia from your fish, but definetly not a good idea if his fins are being injured by it. A fish should be strong enough to swim away from the filter intake, if he is getting sucked to it I would be very concerned that he is ill. You can get prefilter sponges to protect his fins from the filter, I use these on my Aqueon filters
 
winglessicarus
  • #38
I was wondering the same thing, are you sure it is the filter and not fin rot? I would suggest leaving the filter on all the time so the BB have a constant supply of ammonia from your fish, but definetly not a good idea if his fins are being injured by it. A fish should be strong enough to swim away from the filter intake, if he is getting sucked to it I would be very concerned that he is ill. You can get prefilter sponges to protect his fins from the filter, I use these on my Aqueon filters

I found them much cheaper from Amazon (packs of 3), not sure if they're available still at that price. They are great for saving fins, baby fish and an added place for beneficial bacteria to colonize to promote a healthier tank.
 
xannychan
  • Thread Starter
  • #39
After doing a quick search, it may very well be. I can't see the normal signs (darkness/discoloration/dulling of fins etc.), but perhaps the wound is too fresh to tell properly? It seems mostly the membranes are affected by the tears more than the rays and recedes towards the body more than I would like. There's been no fuzziness or dramatic change in behavior - he eats well and is fairly active, which leads me to believe no secondary infections yet. Still, both tears occurred when I notice him hanging around the intake uncomfortably close, which makes me nervous. What should I do? I have read that aquarium salts make effective treatments, as well as vitachem. Not really sure how these products work but I'll keep researching. Any pointers would be great.

Re: conditioning, no, I had no clue about the wait time! When my shipment comes in it will be time for another water change. I might do another wc in the meantime anyway, though I'll be using AquaSafe as a decholrinator instead of prime, and tip in TSS 24 hours after. If changing the water helps, I'll do anything to keep him happy. I'll be getting my testing kit with the shipment, so I'll give you guys the readings as soon as I have them.

It's no joke that aquarium-keeping has a wall of a learning curve - just typing this post makes me realize I have to swallow a lot of my pride to raise this guy! It stinks to know I might have missed the signs and helped him out, or prevented getting him sick in the first place!

Edit: I forgot to mention that is in my order as well. I hope this is comparable to the fluval edge.
 
winglessicarus
  • #40
After doing a quick search, it may very well be. I can't see the normal signs (darkness/discoloration/dulling of fins etc.), but perhaps the wound is too fresh to tell properly? It seems mostly the membranes are affected by the tears and recedes towards the body more than I would like. There's been no fuzziness or dramatic change in behavior - he eats well and is fairly active, which leads me to believe no secondary infections yet. Still, both tears occurred when I notice him hanging around the intake uncomfortably close, which makes me nervous. What should I do? I have read that aquarium salts make effective treatments, as well as vitachem. Not really sure how these products work but I'll keep researching. Any pointers would be great.

Re: conditioning, no, I had no clue about the wait time! When my shipment comes in it will be time for another water change. I might do another wc in the meantime anyway, though I'll be using AquaSafe as a decholrinator instead of prime, and tip in TSS 24 hours after. If changing the water helps, I'll do anything to keep him happy. I'll be getting my testing kit with the shipment, so I'll give you guys the readings as soon as I have them.

The betta in my photo died of what I imagine was fin melt. His fins were a little ragged, but I saw that they were growing back so I kept an eye on it and did nothing. A few days later his fins were nearly gone, portions were clear and there was brown along the edges like a dying flower. I promptly moved him to a quarantine (as he was in a community tank) when he showed signs of ich.

My point is it literally came out of nowhere. His fins had no discoloration the whole time, and I thought I was seeing improvements. Then within two days this happened:


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The discoloration didn't come until after that. He was dead the next morning.

Also remember, no matter how big your TSS bottle is the WHOLE bottle goes in. They claim it treats X number of gallons, but if you don't pour in the whole bottle you risk the bacteria staying in the bottle rather than being in the tank. AND SHAKE SHAKE SHAKE.
 

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