Super Secret Easy Way to Change Substrate?!

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Is there one? I'm trying to avoid having to completely empty the 10 gallon of 10 shrimp, 2 or 3 who are about to give birth, and 5 clown killis along with ALL the plants and rocks

But I'm not seeing an easy solution.
 

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Addictedtobettas said:
Is there one? I'm trying to avoid having to completely empty the 10 gallon of 10 shrimp, 2 or 3 who are about to give birth, and 5 clown killis along with ALL the plants and rocks

But I'm not seeing an easy solution.
I just scoop out all of my old substrate with a cup or net and then add in my new substrate.
 
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Well this is the dang substrate, super fine (dust like) sand that I absolutely cannot keep clean. This is after a 50% wc 3 days ago and... it didn't look much better right after.

Even scooping it will leave a sand cloud. But yeah.. that might be best choice.

I was thinking of just putting in a couple trapdoor snails as they've done an excellent job of cleaning the poop in the sand in the 45g and a 15g, but I also was thinking of just yeeting the substrate out so I can truly keep the tank clean.
10 shrimp leave an awful mess.
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You could try sucking the super fine sand out into a bucket and then scooping/ netting out the larger gravel as Corydork suggested
 
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StarGirl15 said:
This is a you tube video that I saw.
Pretty clean method! Thank you.

Anyone think that would be too stressful to do with the 3 birthing shrimp? Replacing substrate.
 

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Don't know anything about berthing shrimp....sorry
 

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I didn't watch the video. Is it the chopstick on the siphon tube trick? If not, try that too.

Edit: to clarify I mean to clean your sand, not remove it.
 
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mimo91088 said:
I didn't watch the video. Is it the chopstick on the siphon tube trick? If not, try that too.

Edit: to clarify I mean to clean your sand, not remove it.
Chopstick in the siphon tube??
 

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mimo91088 said:
I didn't watch the video. Is it the chopstick on the siphon tube trick? If not, try that too.

Edit: to clarify I mean to clean your sand, not remove it.
No this supposedly removes gravel
 

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Airline tubing with a chopstick or wood skewer attached to make like a vacuum pen. I use one in my 5 gallon sand to clean the top and not take out too much water.
 
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Ahh, yeah my issue with this sand hasn’t been removing too much sand when cleaning but that sand in question creates a vortex effect in which it surrounds the poop or food debris and keeps it from even getting sucked out of the tank.

It’s impressive and supremely annoying.
 

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Addictedtobettas said:
Chopstick in the siphon tube??
You rubber band a chopstick to the end of the tube and use it to poke at the sand while keeping the siphon far enough away. You can stir up all the crud without sucking up the sand.
 
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mimo91088 said:
You rubber band a chopstick to the end of the tube and use it to poke at the sand while keeping the siphon far enough away. You can stir up all the crud without sucking up the sand.
So I tried a rather ghetto method of that, as I don't have chopsticks in the house and no idea of where I'd get them.


It kinda worked, and I get the goal, but its tedious to say the least and the entire tank is a problem. Not to mention the shrimp are just such prolific poopers the white sand looks trashed overnight. :(

I put 3 trapdoor snails in there hoping they'd help as they do in the 45g. They didn't do as much as I'd hoped. Left trails of cleaner sand though.

This is my attempt to suck out the gravel... the sand halts that plan too.

At this point I think I'm just going to have to cup/scrape it out and replace with another sand that's easier to clean going forward.

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