Strange growth

timfulmer

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Aquarium Details  
Gender
Male
Nickname
Tim
Occupation
Software, oh no!
Quarantine?
No, this is an ecosystem tank, the more hitchhikers the better! I .. don’t buy a lot of fish.
List any water conditioners and test kits used:
R/O water + shrimp salts to ~ 2dKH
Kh & Gh testing (API)
Daily dosing w/ plant food
Yeast CO2
Root tabs soon
Experience
More than 10 years
Do you know of and understand the Aquarium Nitrogen Cycle?
Yes
Aquarium Size
10 gallons
Aquarium Type
Freshwater Planted Tank
Fish, Plants, Inverts, etc.
Five maybe rainbow fish fry
Four Amano shrimp
Many bugs and worms and snails
Dwarf four leaf clover
Dwarf hairgrass
Dwarf baby tears
A pointy Anubias
Alternanthera Reineckii Mini
Aflame swords
Mini bolbitis fern
Christmas tree moss
Frogblit
Aquarium Start Date
3/24/2021
Ammonia
-
Nitrite
-
Nitrate
Not enough
Temperature
~ 74F
pH
~ 6.5
Lighting
Stock 5w light + FluvalSmart nano fresh (15w)
Aquarium Filter Type
Small corner filter
Hi all! So, I think this is dwarf four leaf clover, but it’s not growing like people say it should. It put up a few stalks with not quite four emersed leaves, not quite little round immersed leaves, and definitely trying to grow taller. Lots of little round leaves as well, but also these stalk things. I’m battling a nutrient deficiency across the board, b/c too much light and CO2 (good problems), so maybe this is in response? Could also be some other plant that rode in, maybe, perhaps.

There are so many smart people here I thought it might be good to ask!

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I'd try to give it a a trim first. Not sure if Dwarf Four leaf clovers I like this, but Hydrocotyle Tripaitata "Japan" which is extremely similar to your plant is sorta trainable in plant growth and eventually in co2 and after trimming it should start to grow lush and bushy rather then tall.

Also what nutrient deficiencies in specific do you have?

Right, can see the Hydrocotyle-ness, thank you! Love the diversity, more different plants the better. For me the hitchhikers are almost half the fun.

Nutrient deficiencies, looks like nitrogen deficiency is showing in the dwarf baby tears
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And this looks like potassium deficiency to me, here it is in the frogblit
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And potassium deficiency in the Hydrocotyle...

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Aquarium Details  
Gender
Male
Quarantine?
Sometimes
List any water conditioners and test kits used:
SeaChem Prime and Stress Coat
Experience
3 years
Do you know of and understand the Aquarium Nitrogen Cycle?
Yes
Aquarium Size
10g
Aquarium Type
Freshwater Planted Tank
Fish, Plants, Inverts, etc.
2 Golden Honey Gouramis, 5 Celestial Pearl Danios, 4 Hillstream Loaches, 3 Corydoras, 2 Bengal Tiger Endlers, 1 African Dwarf Frog, Nerite Snail, Malaysian Trumpet Snail
Plants: Jungle Vallsneria, Amazon Sword, Frogbit, Houseplants
Aquarium Start Date
December 24th 2020
Ammonia
0ppm
Nitrite
0ppm
Nitrate
5-10ppm
Temperature
74 F
pH
7.4
Lighting
Nicrew Skyled Plus Planted Let (50% White 10% Blue 12 Hours)
Skimmer
No
Aquarium Filter Type
AquaClear 30 HOB and Sponge Filter
Aquarium #2 Size
5g
Tank #2 Type
Freshwater Planted Tank
Tank #2 Fish, Plants, Inverts, etc.
Female Galaxy Koi Plakat Betta
Plants: Rotala indica, Ludwigia Super Red, Cubamba, Unkown plant, Frogbit, pothos, Dwarf hairgrass
Tank #2 Start Date
Feb 27 2021
Tank #2 Ammonia
0
Tank #2 Nitrite
0
Tank #2 Nitrate
0
Tank #2 Temperature
78F
Tank #2 pH
7.4
Tank #2 Lighting
not known (Planted light)
Tank #2 Filter Type
Plant Filtration (Walstad)
Aquarium #3 Size
3g
Tank #3 Type
Freshwater Planted Tank
Tank #3 Fish, Plants, Inverts, etc.
Malabar Pufferfish (Pea Puffer)
Plants: Annubias
Tank #3 Start Date
May 18th 2021
Tank #3 Ammonia
0
Tank #3 Nitrite
0
Tank #3 Nitrate
5
Tank #3 Temperature
78 F
Tank #3 pH
7.4 (Blackwater, high KH)
Tank #3 Lighting
Aqueon Planted light
Tank #3 Filter Type
Sponge Filter
I'd try to give it a a trim first. Not sure if Dwarf Four leaf clovers I like this, but Hydrocotyle Tripaitata "Japan" which is extremely similar to your plant is sorta trainable in plant growth and eventually in co2 and after trimming it should start to grow lush and bushy rather then tall.

Also what nutrient deficiencies in specific do you have?
 
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timfulmer

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Messages
42
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Location
Sunny SoCal
Aquarium Details  
Gender
Male
Nickname
Tim
Occupation
Software, oh no!
Quarantine?
No, this is an ecosystem tank, the more hitchhikers the better! I .. don’t buy a lot of fish.
List any water conditioners and test kits used:
R/O water + shrimp salts to ~ 2dKH
Kh & Gh testing (API)
Daily dosing w/ plant food
Yeast CO2
Root tabs soon
Experience
More than 10 years
Do you know of and understand the Aquarium Nitrogen Cycle?
Yes
Aquarium Size
10 gallons
Aquarium Type
Freshwater Planted Tank
Fish, Plants, Inverts, etc.
Five maybe rainbow fish fry
Four Amano shrimp
Many bugs and worms and snails
Dwarf four leaf clover
Dwarf hairgrass
Dwarf baby tears
A pointy Anubias
Alternanthera Reineckii Mini
Aflame swords
Mini bolbitis fern
Christmas tree moss
Frogblit
Aquarium Start Date
3/24/2021
Ammonia
-
Nitrite
-
Nitrate
Not enough
Temperature
~ 74F
pH
~ 6.5
Lighting
Stock 5w light + FluvalSmart nano fresh (15w)
Aquarium Filter Type
Small corner filter
I'd try to give it a a trim first. Not sure if Dwarf Four leaf clovers I like this, but Hydrocotyle Tripaitata "Japan" which is extremely similar to your plant is sorta trainable in plant growth and eventually in co2 and after trimming it should start to grow lush and bushy rather then tall.

Also what nutrient deficiencies in specific do you have?

Right, can see the Hydrocotyle-ness, thank you! Love the diversity, more different plants the better. For me the hitchhikers are almost half the fun.

Nutrient deficiencies, looks like nitrogen deficiency is showing in the dwarf baby tears
13DA1460-6334-431A-8F64-47E57DD490FB.jpeg
And this looks like potassium deficiency to me, here it is in the frogblit
FF325C9A-9D42-4E64-8B92-34BBA17F633D.jpeg
And potassium deficiency in the Hydrocotyle, actually
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Overall there is a lack of algae in the tank, this spot used to have a bit covering the Anubias and hairgrass
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To the point amanos tore apart a blanched broccoli bit
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The liquid food that came with the starter kit for this tank says, near as I can tell, about 7ml/week is recommended. Yesterday I dosed 3, today 4, maybe 5 tomorrow depending on if still no algae.

Also increasing food for some fry that seem to have ridden in on a plant as eggs, cause that can happen
Fry that rode in on a plant 10 Gallon Tank - | Fish, Snail, Worm And Pest ID Help Forum | 502107

Starting on some flake food soon, should add to the nutrient availability.

I swear this tank is magic.
 
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