Stocking a 240 litre with cichlids, what would you choose?

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HI guys!
I've finally chosen my new tank, Juwel Rio 240 litre.
Was considering buying the EheI'm ecco 300 canister filter, to add to the internal filter included with the tank, but now I think id rather a bigger filter, as I want to give my cichlids the best possible home.
(Would two 300 filters be better than one big one?)

So many beautiful cichlids, so much choice!

I'd love to hear from any cichlid fans out there,
What species would you recommend for a tank this size?
Plus (hopefully) a pleco that won't grow too big.

Planning to add rocks + plants, even if the cichlids insist on re-arranging heehee! I love a natural looking tank.

Thanks for taking the time to read this!
 

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You could do a single Jack Dempsey, which are really amazing looking fish once they mature. You could also do 2-3 blood red parrots. I have 2 in 55 gallon, which is a little smaller than what you have, and I love them. Really, in a tank that size there aren't a whole lot of cichlids that wouldn't work. Maybe name some of the ones you like and people can tell you how many and possible tank mates for the ones you like and you can narrow it down from there.
If it were my tank I would do a Jack Dempsey, a school of Congo tetras, and a leapord frog pleco
 

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Monmouth said:
Really, in a tank that size there aren't a whole lot of cichlids that wouldn't work.

Actually in a 60gal tank there are numerous cichlids that could be kept, I would say easily 50+, different species.....not 50 fish in the tank.

You need to at least narrow it down a bit like African, Central American, South American.


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Some info to look overe here https://www.cichlids.com/library/beginner.html

I would agree with btate that you can pick from a huge range of fish with that size of tank. And it really helps if you narrow it down to what region you are going for.

This site also has a ton of info and some cookie-cutter stocking.
 

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btate617 said:
Actually in a 60gal tank there are numerous cichlids that could be kept, I would say easily 50+, different species.....not 50 fish in the tank.

You need to at least narrow it down a bit like African, Central American, South American.


Brian
That is what I was trying to say. Most cichlids you could probably keep at least 1 of in a 60 gallon tank.
 
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Thank you all for the advice!

Monmouth i'm amazed at the idea that I could have a Jack Dempsey in a tank this small, Amazed and delighted!
It's a fish i've often admired, but thought he would need a huge tank.
Your idea of a JD, school of congo tetras + pleco sounds really lovely!

I am new to cichlids, apart from the GBRs I have at the moment (other tank).

I love the strong personality of these fish, though I know I must choose some of the more "peaceful-by-comparason" cichlids as it is not such a big tank.

I'm drawn to african cichlids, but the more I read about different species, the more torn I am!
I can definitely see an addiction forming...
Thanks lads!
I'm off to do some more research, thank you for the link Mosin360
 

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If you want african cichlids & plants avoid the Mbuna species. Mbuna will make short work of any plants you try to have. Tanganyika cichlids on the other hand are mostly ok with plants so perhaps there are a few of those that you might like.

There are dozens of SA/CA cichlids that could work in that sized tank, not all of them with plants so do your research carefully if you want to have a planted tank. A JD wil make life hard for most plants but you could probably get away with some Anubius & Java Fern attached to rocks & wood. I like SalvinI or Firemouths for planted tanks & there are heaps of other options for tanks without plants.
 
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Score one to the cichlids... I may just forgo the plants
 

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yes a single jack dempsey would be plenty happy in your tank. They can live happily in a 55 gallon or larger. I would do more than one of them unless you had 90-100 gallons, but for one, your tank would be plenty big.

In my cichlid tank I did 2 blood red parrots, a school of rainbows, and a school of panda cory and I constantly wonder if I should have done the jack dempsey with congos instead.

Here is the Fish Lore care guide for jacks, it says 55 or larger
https://www.fishlore.com/profile-jackdempsey.htm
 
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HI guys!
Thought i'd post an update, of sorts

The 240 litre is set up, standard juwel internal filter with some filter floss from another cycled tank, plus EheI'm ecco pro 300.
Handful of gravel and some water siphoned from my other tank during a gravel vac, plus a few generous pinches of fish flakes.

Long time since I said this, but come on ammonia!!!

I've fallen in love with some beautiful "giraffe" haplochromis cichlids, but reading that they are very aggressive, so my tank would be quite small for anything more than this species, one male and a few girlies.
Perhaps I will start with some yellow labs, cobalt blues.
I'm taken by the various Auloncara species too!
 

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I have the same tank and I'm very lucky to have a great LFS that specialises in the more unusual fish species. They have a batch of Congo/Zaire river fish arriving this coming Tuesday, all wild caught (which is really sad, I'd much rather them be free, but I've just installed an EheI'm 2078 external filter alongside the Juwel Bio 8 and 1000 pump which has a "stream effect" cycle)... I hope this will give the fish I buy the closest conditions to where they have just come from so abruptly.

Amongst the arrivals, 4 or 5 species of Steatocranus (Humphead/Blockhead) species are expected [casaurius; gibbiceps, blaher; tinanti, "red-eye"]! I desperately hope that either all these guys are still youngsters, or that adult bonded pairs were caught, as once mated, these guys are monogamous for life... There are "no more fish in the sea" for this species, if the pairing is split through any reason, the other will stay single for the rest of its days

Some rare Pelviochromis (I'm sure the manager really meant Nanochromis) nudiceps are expected too, which I am tempted to stock too as a pair/trio.
 
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Just looking at pics of those Steatocranus, they are quite an impressive looking fish!

I hope they will be very happy in their new home!
I hope you will post pics!

I'd love to know, how did you manage to put the Eheims outlet at the same end of the tank as the internal filter?
Did you have to cut the lid to allow space for the hose?

I have mine at opposite ends, in allocated gaps.

Best of luck with the new project!
 

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The bar spray is resting on the top of the Juwel integrated filter/heater cabinet lid, at a slightly down-pointing angle nearest the front of the tank. This works really well, as the few couple of spray bar holes end up dribbling water, while the frontmost opening set up a clockwise current. The Juwel's outpipe is pointing at ~45 degrees towards the front-middle of the tank water surface, acting as a constant min-flow, regardless of what phase the "stream mode" is on (its more like what you would imagine from the tide coming in, just breaking through to a rockpool every now and again).

The two pipes for the EheI'm enter the tank via the gap by the filter chamber, resulting in the lid not quite sitting down firmly... This will no doubt need some inventive tinkering once the escape artist Garras come out of quarntine this weekend and also when the African Butterfly fish go in sometime in the coming month!

I would like to have done what you did, using the access point at the other end of the tank, but I am severely limited by old electrics in this flat (having to use an extension from other room to feed power to the tank essentails, as the room's single power point goes to a tower for two computers and a fan.

Edit: Nothing is cut, its as it cmae out of the box, just with the pipe split equally into two bit and a small 3cm section to join the two spraybar sections.

Here's a very un-pro "Muvi" clip from my minicam taken yesterday...


Are you any nearer to your cichlid stocking?
 
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Oh wow! Nice work on the plants, they are beautiful!

That's a very inventive way of setting up, and it does create a lovely current.

I see you have some little fishy-babbys, congratulations are in order!
what are they?

Delighted to say, after many evenings spent gazing at tanks (+at the computer), my tank has become home to 9 beautiful cichlids!
Most are juveniles, excepting the Empress and "Giraffe" hap.

Aulonocara sp. Dragon Blood

Orange Blotch cichlid

Red Empress Protomelas taeniolatus,

Giraffe cichlid ,haplochromine. (female, but not at all shy. She was in a tank with 3 males when I saw her first, one male survived, he looked glad to be rid of her!)

Cyrtocara mooriI ( I had to have a humphead, I hope he's male)

Labidochromis caeruleus, Electric Yellow X3 (very small juvies)

Psuedotropheus socolofI "Albino" aka 'Snowflake' (very bossy)

No pic yet, sand, lots of stones and caves. Still considering plants, maybe some amazon sword or something robust. Though the Orange blotch might enjoy them a bit too much heehee!
 

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Congrats on the MalawI setup! Have to confess I will have to look up besides the "Electric Yellow Labs", as I never really researched this biotope much when thinking of my tank stocking, but was glad to remember the "Blue Dolphin" who may well insist on being 'top dog' in your tank!

The breeder net contains two generations of fry in my tank... Six 5-week old Pearl Danios, plus six unknown "mosquito larvae" which may be more Pearls or possibly the Yellowtails (I really hope its the latter, I think mine were wild caught last year, bringing home the remaining six in shop this week)!
 
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aww sweet!!
Ive never bred fish or raised fry, i'd imagine it's fascinating!

I keep a shoal of assorted danios in my small tank with the rams, they are such an active fish! I've often spent ridiculous time watching them and laughing at their games of tag!
Though saying that, I've spent much frustrated time trying to net the zippy little buggers too!
 
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Finally, here's a video of the tank, stocked with african cichlids!
Also some plants, less plants than I put in heehee!
Some of the fish enjoy their salad, but that's ok with me
Enjoy!

 

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Beautiful!
 

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Lovely!!!!!! Now the second time around you can start another cichlid tank with SA cichlids!!!! LOL I started my SA cichlid tank first then my african tank. Cichlids are VERY ADDICTIVE!!!!! Hope the new tank gives you hours of enjoyment!!
 
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Heehee oh Aquagirl you read my mind!!
I'm already saving for the next tank!

I just love cichlids, they are fascinating!
My two largest cichlids (red empress and venustus) have paired off, and so have two of the yellow labs!
I'm so happy they are all getting along so well!

I have rams in my other tank, and now am dreaming of all the other SAs I could chose!

Aquariums should come with warnings: HIGHLY addictive!!! May damage bank balance!
Mind you, it still wouldn't deter me
 
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