I am helping my kid setup a new 10 gallon tank. So far we have nice piece of driftwood, one rock, anubias nana, java fern, christmas moss and moss ball. Christmas ball and anubias nana will go onto the driftwood to create a tree-like effect. Substrate is black sand and we also have Neo-Therm heater and Aquaclear 20 HOB filter.
As far as stocking, he wanted one honey gourami and two peacock gudgeons. We are going to be doing fish in cycle with one guppy and TSS+. I know that even after the tank is cycled, my kid will get too attached to the guppy so he will not give it back to the LFS. So as a result, we will end up with one honey gourami, one peacock gudgeon and one guppy. Hope that's OK for a small community tank. According to AqAdvisor, our stocking will be at 72% and will require 17% water changes weekly (we are going to do 20% which is 2 gallons). Filtration is at 215%.
We have all but the fish so we will start the aquarium setup tonight and most likely finish this weekend. Will post photos of the process later.
Any comments and/or recommendations?
I do know that the fishless cycle is better (for fish) but it is hard to tell 10 year old that he will be staring at an empty tank for a month until the invisible cycle happens. We did one fish-in cycle using TSS+ in the past and it was successful. We are hoping that this time we can succeed as well.
Guppy was recommended for the fish-in cycle by owner of LFS when we told him that we want to have HG and PG as the final stocking. He told us that we can bring Guppy back once the cycle is finished but my son will not want to part with the fish so Guppy is going to stay unless as reported earlier, there is a big fight between Guppy and PG.Guppys require a very astablished tank they can be a bit sensitive I would recommend getting some shrimp or some snail to start off with and adding some bacteria in a bottle. This will help so you can add guppys quicker.
Guppy was recommended for the fish-in cycle by owner of LFS when we told him that we want to have HG and PG as the final stocking. He told us that we can bring Guppy back once the cycle is finished but my son will not want to part with the fish so Guppy is going to stay unless as reported earlier, there is a big fight between Guppy and PG.
Guppies are actually very hardy and are a beginner fish.
Shrimp and snails are actually one of the most sensitive species in the hobby.
If there is a fight between the guppy and gudgeon rehoming one is best option. My guppy was near death.
He will never do it. He had a tank for about a year and really cared for his Betta fish changing water every week, feeding, and playing with him. He is the responsible one out of the two boys I have.I would also just like to say that it is best to make sure that you son (as I am sure you will do) does not hit the side of the glass of the aquarium as is very common with young people.
Thank you for this information I had always been informed that guppies are very sensitive fish,but I am clearly wrong.
Can I place my betta with 5 neon tetras?Every Betta fish is different. I've had some betta fish who will not let anything near their tank and others that could care less. Right now, believe it or not, I actually have a betta with rams and guppies, and there is no aggression at all. The key is to add many sight barriers such that their territory is limited to their view. That in mind, if you are trying to add other fish, make sure you have plenty of hiding spaces. Also have a back up tank if you happen to have a betta that doesn't like anything breathing.
To start off, I would add fish with not a lot of color, no long fins, and are relatively fast. We don't want to provoke the betta since we don't know their personality yet. Thus, for a ten gallon, white cloud mountain minnows would be a good starter choice. They also like the temperature on the color side (64-27 F), so they are a good fit for your betta. Be careful the first couple hours. Make sure you monitor your betta's behavior, and immediately remove the new fish if the betta becomes aggressive. It might also help to rearrange the tank before you put the new fish in such that the betta no longer has a set territory.
If after a month, you notice your betta is docile towards the other fish, you might want to try adding other fish, perhaps some with more color, and see how it goes. You might get lucky, and have a very peaceful betta, but remember to always have a back up plan.
You can try it. They are a little more flashy, but as long as you have a back up, it can't hurt to try.
But I was always very unsure about neon tetras, people telling me they're very hardy, people telling me they're not hardy at all. I am very, very unsure about getting this fish. I usually buy from petsmart, is it true that their fish are not properly taken care of (And are therefore less likely to live long)?White clouds and bettas do not share temperature compatibility. White clouds prefer cooler water (upper 60s to low 70s) while bettas need to be in water in the upper 70s to around 80F.
Bettas are frequently housed with neon tetras. Most people don't have a problem. But like TI'm said, every betta is different and you could get one that doesn't let anything near him or one that is as friendly as ever.
A single betta in a 10 is a nice thing. I generally only keep a male betta in a ten with live plants.I just want a fish that is very easy to keep alive and will cooperate.
100% ystrout They are not what I would recommend for a first fish. We have 2 separate schools at 20 strong each that are years old.People say neon tetras are not hardy because they have been overbred, causing inbreeding and creating a genetically weaker fish. I can confirm neons are not as hardy as other similar fish. I still keep them and have had mine for a very long time. The ones in my tank are healthy and doing great.
The problem is really when you get them. You can go buy 10 danios or other species of tetra and put them in a cycled tank, and they will all live long healthy lives. If I went and bought 10 neon tetras and put them in a cycled tank, I would expect a few to die in the first week. After that week, the rest will live long healthy lives.
And no one can guarantee any fish will do well with your betta. You just can't know until you try since all bettas have different personalities.
Thank you Ash Paws Sunhawk picked him out. He lived a good long life. When he took the long swim to the ancestors he was buried as a family member.May I just say that is probably the prettiest betta I have ever seen?
I've had 3 bettas in the past, my plants never hurt them before, I'm pretty sure they are safe.FishCareGuide Be extremely careful if your going for fake plants. I got my Crowntail Betta a plastic red plant as seen in my thumbnail from Petsmart and I eventually learned plastic kind of plants are a no no for Betta's compared to other fish because the plastic can be pointy and overall tear their fins. I suggest a silk plant. and are awesome products. My Betta Koriand'r loves them and they are very friendly safe for all Betta's. I ordered mine from ebay and amazon has them too.
That betta is so pretty!
Um, I still have no idea what I should get so some more replies would be nice... Please?
What temperature should I set it to if I add guppies too (To have a temperature they both will thrive in?)Have you looked into snails? Nerite Snails won’t breed and if you find the tiny thorned ones they are super cute. I keep Malaysian Trumpet Snails with my Betta but move people consider them to be an invasive species as they breed a lot. They also won’t clean algae as well as the Nerite snail would but I like them all the same.
Otherwise you could try guppies, but again it depends on your Betta. I put some feeder guppies in my betta’s tank to see his temperament and he didn’t mind them
What temperature should I set it to if I add guppies too (To have a temperature they both will thrive in?)
So it depends on my betta's personality whether or not he will accept them?
I've changed my mind, I'm not getting tetra aquasafe plus as my dechlorinator, I'll get Seachem Prime.
Thank you for the advice, I do plan on adding fish, specifically kulI loaches. I read more into the Nitrogen cycle and plan on properly cycling the tank before adding fish friends!Tank looks great imo. Make sure to cycle the tank if you plan on adding any fish ! Read into the Nitrogen Cycle if you are unsure what cycling is
Haha, experienced that little game in the first stages of the tank. Had many baby snails showing up but the assassin snail has developed a bigger appetite!You ever read “The Most Dangerous Game”? This sounds kinda like that but snail version
Tank looks amazing btw!
Thanks! I do not plan on adding any chemicals unless it is essential at this point. I will keep a close eye on the growth though and try to minimize the spread!Algae doesn't look that bad, but if it gets out of control you can reduce the amount of light you give to the tank. Make sure the live plants get enough though. You can also dose the tank with some algae prevention meds, but I have no experience with that.
Thank you! I have had it operational now with plants coming up on 3 weeks. I have not added any first but am open to it if you have any suggestions!