Starting A 125 Discus Tank.

86 ssinit

Well I figured this is where I was heading anyway. So I might as well get started. Been away from discus since 2004. Been keeping fish all along but never seriously. Kept discus for 15 yrs and the tank broke. Heart breaking to say the least. But after reading many of the threads here it time to start again. And with everybody here saving Bettas I saved a pair of discus a few weeks ago. 0D4F62C8-291C-4F16-BD5C-254A3C74A2CE.jpeg55D18EC1-BE9F-4847-93BD-EC5F226C80C4.jpeg Put them in a 45g ram tank and they are doing ok. As you can see not the best fish but I like them . They had been in the store for at least a month and were starting to look bad so I grabbed them. Well you know how it goes. Store got in more fish and I just had too.44B6B5F6-4C83-4B22-AAB0-5D5F4E1E4E14.jpeg These fish are some nice looking fish .
Yes I know way to many fish in the tank. But with daily water changes all is well.
I ordered the 125 upon getting the first 2. So it should be here soon. Been buying stuff and building a standD2EACB68-7D32-4D9D-8098-30F69568F6E9.jpeg I have 4 tanks going now all with extra media so once it comes it should set up quickly.
Not buying anymore till the tank is set up. But have been looking around and there’s not much out there. Not selling like they used too. Not as many people keeping them. So I guessing the internet will be the buying place. Or maybe discus madness in jersey. I’ve got time before that.
So I’ve had the fish for 2 weeks now and they seem to be fine. All are eating though the darker blue is probably the weakest. It didn’t eat for about 3 days and still doesn’t eat everything. But it’s improved greatly since I got it.6A507DF6-6189-4F83-B3A7-03CEAF251806.jpeg
So this is where I am now will continue to post as I go along. Thanks for reading
 

jmaldo

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Watching!
Plan on upgrading to a 125 in about 6 months.
Looking forward to your creation.
Best of Luck!
 

86 ssinit

Not much to add. Skinned the stand and made the doors. Still waiting for the tank. Think I’ve got all the equipment.
Fx6 filter and a 350gph powerhead with 2 sponges.
2 finnex 300w heaters
A doctors 3-1
2 30” vivagrow 24/7 led lights.
75lbs of gravel.(yes it’s going to be a planted tank).
4lbs of biohome and a lb of matrix for the filter. Which I will mix with my other filters so it’s up and running pretty quick.
Anything I’m missing? A7D9DED7-DD2D-4382-B984-8BF3A5C3F868.jpeg
 

Dawn Michele

HI Tom!!! They are beautiful!!! Your going to LOVE the 125!!! Looking forward to the updates!!!
 

86 ssinit

And a question about the discus. Do you think they are stressed now or that they colored up? They all eat and swim all around the tank. The water is changed every other day. They look and act fine. But the dark lines on the orange ones have me wondering.B9557269-744F-4520-B3B4-E20399CBB7F3.jpeg1F2C3367-78EE-4350-AE61-668CB0C729EF.jpeg
 

kallililly1973

Never owned discus but they are looking good in the 45 i'm sure they will thrive in the 125. Where did you order the 125 if you don't mind me asking? Also that stand build looks amazing. Nice job!!
 

86 ssinit

I bought it from houzz. It’s a clear for life acrylic. They are known to be slow on shipping. It’s expected this Monday but was suppose to be here the past Monday.. But hey I still have to Finish and paint the stand.
 
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nikm128

And a question about the discus. Do you think they are stressed now or that they colored up? They all eat and swim all around the tank. The water is changed every other day. They look and act fine. But the dark lines on the orange ones have me wondering.View attachment 563332View attachment 563334
I think they're all good, the black lines honestly look more like strong peppering to me
 

kallililly1973

I bought it from houzz. It’s a clear for life acrylic. They are known to be slow on shipping. It’s expected this Monday but was suppose to be here the past Monday.. But hey I still have to Finnish and paint the stand.
OK Wow very nice.Thanks!
 

fa4960

Could be stress from moving into the new environment but could come from establishing pecking order. I have read somewhere and also seen it once in my tank that a fish looked darker while establishing its place in the pecking order.

PS: Nice set of Fuchs wheels you got there in the background of the garage
 

jmaldo

Stand is "Looking" good. So are the Discus.
fa4960
Interesting about the darkening/ peppering. I have been seeing something similar, Especially with my 2 smallest ones. At times they are bright/light and then darker blue. Stress?

Learning all the time
 

fa4960

jmaldo Not always stress as such, can also be things that indirectly stresses the fish like:

if suffering from constipation, it darkens and vertical bars appear.
if it has an infection, the body can darken and bars appear.
if it is in a feeding frenzy they can show bars and darken
if spawning and caring for free swimming fry the bars can show and the body darkens

I have noticed a few of mine darken in a blood worm feeding frenzy, one of those where I just overdid the blood worms so they are literally everywhere around the fish....
 

86 ssinit

I allways believe the black lines are stress related. In a pecking order you’ll see the faint line but not black lines. Black lines are usually something is bothering the fish. Usually tank mates. You will notice if discus have angelfish in the tank they are showing black lines. Remove the angels and after a while the line go away (May take a week). But as Nikm says for mine it does look like peppering. But mine are in a crowded tank right now with 6 rams and many other fish including a sae that darts all over the tank. They look great with full bellies so it’s a tough guess right now. Will see when they get into the next tank.
 

86 ssinit

B3824CE6-8B10-4F10-9213-0A43A615C549.jpeg Got this pic last night right after I turned the light on. No black at all.
Finished the stand but the tank is delayed till wed.C1EF3A56-E381-478B-BC31-908317526554.jpegAEA153D6-5314-4882-9B25-272C75AB2C60.jpeg
 

ystrout

That stand looks amazing!

Did you design it yourself or did you find the plans online?
 

Thedudeiam94

Got this pic last night right after I turned the light on. No black at all.
Finished the stand but the tank is delayed till wed.

I can tell by the tires and rims that you must have a mustang. Yes?

Stand looks amazing though! Great job!
 

nikm128

Got this pic last night right after I turned the light on. No black at all.
Finished the stand but the tank is delayed till wed.
Is it a yellow mosaic?
I can tell by the tires and rims that you must have a mustang. Yes?
I think those are from one of his Porsche's
 

86 ssinit

That stand looks amazing!

Did you design it yourself or did you find the plans online?
Little bit of both. Easy enough to make if you have the tools. Thanks

I can tell by the tires and rims that you must have a mustang. Yes?

Nope Nikm128 is right off my Porsche’s.
Is it a yellow mosaic?
Sorry I bad with names but I think they were pearl essence pigeon bloods or Marlboros. So many names they make up. Is that your new discus as your avatar?

I think those are from one of his Porsche's
 

Thedudeiam94

“Porsche’s” wow I’m jealous! Lol
 

nikm128

Sorry I bad with names but I think they were pearl essence pigeon bloods or Marlboros. So many names they make up. Is that your new discus as your avatar?
No problem, I'm bad with names too. It is not the new one, it's just the brown.
 

86 ssinit

Lol went to the pet store today .DC717832-8457-4600-91CE-E7DD51EAFFCB.jpeg42B84DCA-383D-4161-A8A7-8AFB0413FDE7.jpeg Tank should be here tomorrow..
 

nikm128

You know, if you follow the guide disc61 made you could put 12 in there by following 10 gallon per discus with a minimum of a 55
 

Thedudeiam94

Lol went to the pet store today . Tank should be here tomorrow..

By pet store what do you mean? It must be a pretty top notch pet store! Those are nice looking discus!
 

86 ssinit

Thanks . $15 each.
 

nikm128

Thanks . $15 each.
Um, what!? $15 each? From now on I'm paying you to buy my discus and then to have them shipped lol
 

86 ssinit

920E9B7F-DFC3-4D9B-B2D8-AA39C455913F.jpeg Thanks for the comments. But here’s a reference. Notice the forktail rainbows the rasboras and the Otto cats. These are small discus nothing bigger than 2 inch.
 

Thedudeiam94

Yeah $15! That’s crazy! I don’t blame you nikm128 those are some NICE discus!
 

86 ssinit

23182F88-3F22-4428-A20F-B0D1FCFD038F.jpeg 4715B6AA-FEC4-46B5-9C7D-59CDAEEB467B.jpeg Tank came in stand finished . Will hope to start it up this weekend . Fish are still doing good in 45. Little crowded but everybody is getting along great. It’s funny seeing a ram and discus fighting for the same worm. 77A82898-2DF4-40E9-86BE-C2307BE6DFC0.jpeg
Now the problems begin. I want to move everything out of the 45 into the 125. So I will do this slowly. May take me a few weeks to do what I want. I want to run this tank fishless for a least a week before I start moving things into it.
 

Thedudeiam94

That new tank and stand have me drooling!!!! AWESOME JOB!! Very nice handy work on the stand! I give it two thumbs up
 

86 ssinit

Thanks and I guess you can see the pictures. I still have no pics showing .
 

Thedudeiam94

Yes the pics are visible, however I am on my cellphone. Not sure if your on a pc or a phone? But I am seeing them! That rimless tank looks HUGE! Lol

Ahhh! One question!!! Since you have a 45 gal tall which I am assuming it’s if not exact, writhing the same measurements of mine what brand of light bar are you using on the 45? Also what is the length of it?
 

86 ssinit

Thanks again. The tank is acrylic. I also have a 90 that’s about a year and a half old185B382F-4A19-49BD-A32B-61E244C13C7F.jpeg I plan to move it to where the 45 is now. No pics on cell either for me.

My 45 is 3 ft long 24” high and 12” deep. It should be fine for your five for awhile. Light fixture is a vivagrow 24/7 36” long. Though I can’t find them anymore. Great lights if you can find them. I have them on all my tanks. Some also recommend the aquaneet 24/7.
 

Thedudeiam94

That’s awesome! They look great! I am getting the photos just fine not sure why your having trouble seeing them. I’m sure they will pop up at some point. On the bright side you live with the tanks so you don’t need photos!
 

86 ssinit

Filled the tank half way yesterday. IMG_0110.JPG

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Some pics of the fish
 

Thedudeiam94

Yeah our tank dimensions for the 45 gal are different mine is has a lot of depth but it is the same height and width it looks like.. mine might be more than a 45 gal?
 

86 ssinit

Is yours 18” deep if so that would make it a 60-65 gal.
 

Thedudeiam94

Yeah it is 18” deep.
 

jmaldo

Looking Good!
At least I can see the pics on the phone app.
 

coralbandit

A whole thread full of pics and I don't see one !
I am not using my phone to see little pics ,so I will wait ..
Sounds great and if I was not at just about full speed in fish room I would be considering discus myself !
I actually am but so far have done well talking myself out of it ..We'll see how I do when I go to DiscussMadness in 2 weeks!
Following and excited to see pics soon..
 

Thedudeiam94

A whole thread full of pics and I don't see one !
I am not using my phone to see little pics ,so I will wait ..
Sounds great and if I was not at just about full speed in fish room I would be considering discus myself !
I actually am but so far have done well talking myself out of it ..We'll see how I do when I go to DiscussMadness in 2 weeks!
Following and excited to see pics soon..

Ohhhh snap! Are you considering getting some of your own discus coralbandit ?
 

nikm128

A whole thread full of pics and I don't see one !
I am not using my phone to see little pics ,so I will wait ..
Sounds great and if I was not at just about full speed in fish room I would be considering discus myself !
I actually am but so far have done well talking myself out of it ..We'll see how I do when I go to DiscussMadness in 2 weeks!
Following and excited to see pics soon..
Do it!
 

86 ssinit

The fish today.
My first video. .
 

coralbandit

Nice !
All caught up now that pics are showing !
It does seem that discus fever is alive and well on Fishlore !
 

86 ssinit

64F68788-2FED-4E11-B092-CDC58266E7FA.jpeg All set up! Still have to move some more plants and stuff but almost there. Added the gravel from the 45 and the mts that were with it. So set up a snail trap. Amazing how many are in there. All good though I like mts. Set up the fx6. Making some noise this morn. It’s supposed to fix itself every 12hrs so I will give it a few days to see what happens. Added a whole tray of media from my other tanks to get it started and have been adding some wc water to the tank for the bb to eat. Will test later today.
Been looking at discus breeders and have decided to go with Hans. Will order 6 2 1/2” discus of 3 different types either later this week or next. So I will have a total of 12 discus. Just wondering which 6 should go in the new tank first.
 

Ken Kanatsu

All set up! Still have to move some more plants and stuff but almost there. Added the gravel from the 45 and the mts that were with it. So set up a snail trap. Amazing how many are in there. All good though I like mts. Set up the fx6. Making some noise this morn. It’s supposed to fix itself every 12hrs so I will give it a few days to see what happens. Added a whole tray of media from my other tanks to get it started and have been adding some wc water to the tank for the bb to eat. Will test later today.
Been looking at discus breeders and have decided to go with Hans. Will order 6 2 1/2” discus of 3 different types either later this week or next. So I will have a total of 12 discus. Just wondering which 6 should go in the new tank first.
It looks good... can't wait to see the final product!
 

Thedudeiam94

All set up! Still have to move some more plants and stuff but almost there. Added the gravel from the 45 and the mts that were with it. So set up a snail trap. Amazing how many are in there. All good though I like mts. Set up the fx6. Making some noise this morn. It’s supposed to fix itself every 12hrs so I will give it a few days to see what happens. Added a whole tray of media from my other tanks to get it started and have been adding some wc water to the tank for the bb to eat. Will test later today.
Been looking at discus breeders and have decided to go with Hans. Will order 6 2 1/2” discus of 3 different types either later this week or next. So I will have a total of 12 discus. Just wondering which 6 should go in the new tank first.

I would wait and place them all in at the same time so everyone has an even chance of establishing territory. But I could be wrong depending on their different bacteria being added to the tank?
 

nikm128

The pecking order is probably mostly in place already, so I would think the one at the bottom of the list would get last pick either way.
 

86 ssinit

I would wait and place them all in at the same time so everyone has an even chance of establishing territory. But I could be wrong depending on their different bacteria being added to the tank?
Good advice. Have to talk to Hans. I figured he would add the fish together at he’s place for a few days before he shipped. Also 6 entering together at that size should be all right. Not like adding one and the rest start bullying it. But the bacteria thing I never thought of. So with that I should move what I have into the new tank and let his sit in the 45 for a few weeks to adjust.
What does everyone think of that? Thanks for all the advice . It’s great to have a group like this.

The pecking order is probably mostly in place already, so I would think the one at the bottom of the list would get last pick either way.
Funny thing my runt moved up the pecking order when I added the last 2 fish. He’s made a great improvement. The last 2 are at the bottom of the group even though they are a little bigger than the runt. They are both showing the black line of being on the bottom of the pecking order. F1AF7265-C254-4C53-BC00-185C96F0D14F.jpeg
 

coralbandit

Your stand is a work of art .Bravo from one who understands and appreciates !
I would not be mixing the Petco discus with the Hans discus without both having a month or more with you ..
If I had to pick I would not risk the Hans discus , I am sure they cost more the $15 and will be a little nicer then dirty pigeon bloods ?
Just me but life is full of choices and is the result of them ..The two different discus are not on even ground IMO..
 

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