Stalled Cycle

Cin'cala
  • #1
I have been cycling a new 5G freshwater aquarium for 9 days using Dr Tim’s One and Only
along with Dr Tim’s Ammonia Chloride. I have been trying to get this tank up and running for about 6
Months now.
I have switched substrates 3 times and the fish always die. I used Seachem Flourite the last time and it killed
my plants along with the fish.
This time I am using Fluval Stratum and Carib Sea Eco Complete. I am trying to start a Shrimp tank.

My problem is my PH is low 6.4 ppm and my Ammonia is high 4.0 ppm. I have added Lava Rocks and still the PH stays low. Here are my parameters.

Ph- 6.4
PH- H- 7.4
Ammonia- 4.0
Nitrite- 0
Nitrate- 10/20 colors are too close.

I am using a sponge filter and a heater. Assorted plants- Java Ferm, Java Moss, Anubias Nana, Rosette Sword,
Moss Balls, etc.
Can someone tell me what to do with this tank. It has become very annoying. I have 2 other tanks and never had this much trouble starting them.
 
AquaticJ
  • #2
What’s your PH out of the tap? Also, have you replaced your sponge or rinsed it in tap water? If you’re doing a shrimp tank, I’d only dose to 1 ppm. So I’d do a water change to 1 ppm. Are you using water conditioner?
 
Cin'cala
  • Thread Starter
  • #3
What’s your PH out of the tap? Also, have you replaced your sponge or rinsed it in tap water? If you’re doing a shrimp tank, I’d only dose to 1 ppm. So I’d do a water change to 1 ppm. Are you using water conditioner?

PH of tap water is 6.6 ppm. I have not replaced the sponge, it is from the previous tank, rinsed in water with Prime. I have rocks and driftwood from a cycled tank in it to. I use Prime as a conditioner. Three days ago I did a 50% water change and brought the Ammonia down to 2 ppm. The next day it was back to 4.0 ppm.
You say I should do another water change, and bring it down to 1 ppm. Should I leave it alone after that? I also started using Seachem Stability 2 days ago, should I continue using it?
 
AquaticJ
  • #4
How did the ammonia go up without you adding more?
 
Cin'cala
  • Thread Starter
  • #5
How did the ammonia go up without you adding more?

I have no clue! On 6/16 I added Dr Tim’s One and Only. Than I added 20 drops ( 4 drops per gallon Dr Tim’s Ammonium Chloride, and Ammonia went to 2 ppm. The video I watched said to bring it to 4 ppm. So, the next day I added 20 more drops and it went to 4 ppm and it’s been there ever since. I did a water change and got it to 2 ppm. The next day it was back to 4. Do you think it could be the substrate?
 
AquaticJ
  • #6
I'm honesty not sure, that's weird. I would try to get it down to 1 ppm still.
 
Cin'cala
  • Thread Starter
  • #7
I'm honesty not sure, that's weird. I would try to get it down to 1 ppm still.
I know, its weird! I’m going to bring it down to 1 ppm, and then dose it back to 4ppm, and see if I can give it a jump start.
Thanks for your help, I really appreciate it!
 
AquaticJ
  • #8
No I'd just keep it at 1ppm, maybe 2 ppm. 4 ppm is going to take a longer time for ultimately just shrimp which don't have a high bioload.
 
Cin'cala
  • Thread Starter
  • #9
No I'd just keep it at 1ppm, maybe 2 ppm. 4 ppm is going to take a longer time for ultimately just shrimp which don't have a high bioload.
I just read a post on dosing to 2 ppm if Ammonia drops below 1 ppm. I agree that 4 ppm is too much!
There are so many posts on this subject on Facebook, it gets very confusing! 1 to 2 ppm sounds good. I will bring it down to 1 or 2 and try to keep it there. Is it ok to use Seachem Stability?
 
AquaticJ
  • #10
Won’t hurt anything, I personally don’t use bacterial additives because they don’t work. To each his/her own. Another sure fire way to cycle the tank is to just run the sponge filter in your cycled tank for 3-4 weeks.
 
Cin'cala
  • Thread Starter
  • #11
Won’t hurt anything, I personally don’t use bacterial additives because they don’t work. To each his/her own. Another sure fire way to cycle the tank is to just run the sponge filter in your cycled tank for 3-4 weeks.
I bought a new XINYOU XY - 2835 sponge filter to cycle In another tank, and purchased a Hydor Theo submersible heater. The heater I am using is not adjustable, it keeps the tank at 78 degrees at all times, which I think is part of the problem.
I know Stability really doesn’t do much, but I have a big bottle, might as well use it!
 
Cin'cala
  • Thread Starter
  • #12
Won’t hurt anything, I personally don’t use bacterial additives because they don’t work. To each his/her own. Another sure fire way to cycle the tank is to just run the sponge filter in your cycled tank for 3-4 weeks.
I’m back and still playing with this tank! I just did a 80% water change because nitrate was high 40/80 ppm.
There is nothing in the tank now (lost most of my plants) but, I have more plants waiting!
Parameters before water change.
Ph- 7.4
Ph-h- 7.6
Ammonia- 1.0
Nitrite- 0/0.25
Nitrate- 40/80.
Parameters after water change:
Ph- 7.2
Ph-h- 7.4
Ammonia- 0.25
Nitrite- 0
Nitrate- 40.
Don’t know what to do! Should I leave it alone, put a fish in it, or add more ammonia?
 

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