something is causing my fish to be ill | Page 2

Discussion in 'Freshwater Beginners' started by guppygrl, Dec 2, 2012.

  1. Eienna

    EiennaFishlore VIPMember

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    Rogue is usually right from what I've seen. I'd take his advice, personally.

    If it is rot as mentioned, a mild antiseptic like Seachem Stress Guard may prove helpful. Note that this is NOT stress coat. Different product.
     
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    She said it's not fluffy. It's not columnaris.
     
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    hmmm true I was going of the flakey skin description and as this may have just developed I was wondering if it could just be early stages so it didnt look fluffy yet but I don't know.
     
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    Columnaris usually kills much faster than that, too - within 48 hours of the appearance of symptoms.
     
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    ahh I didn't know that it was that fast.
     
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    Depends on the strain.
    Some are quicker than others.
     
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    how low should i lower the temp? I'll do a water change tonight.

    it seemed the higher temps didn't help... I'm new at fish disease... thought it could be Ich or a parasite so that's why I raised the temp slowly up to 80. Normally it's at 78.

    I hope they aren't dead when I get home. They are heavy with fry and would love to see them but my priority is trying to save the fish.

    Why do fish flash like that? Itchy body?

    Thanks for so many replies and advice.
     
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    76 is probably best. Lower it slowly, only about a degree or two per hour. It's not ich. If it is a heat-responsive parasite you'd need a good 86-90 degrees, but I don't think that's what it is.

    Yeah, flashing is...think Baloo from Jungle Book. Scratch that back, baby! XD They don't have fingernails.
     
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    I would lower the temp very slowly. Even slower than Eienna suggested just because the fish are not doing so great. Usually raising temp you can raise it faster but lowering can be bad if you do it too fast. I lower one degree on the heater late in the evening and then the next morning do it again. 74-76 is a good place to keep it when getting rid of fungus.

    When fish flash they scrape themselves against rocks, wood, plants etc. It's a very fast, almost erratic movement.
     
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    regarding the flakey looking skin. I once had a black balloon molly that showed the exact same symptoms just that she was pretty active and didnt hide much. Not to scare you or upset you, but i tried lots of medication too but after about a week she passed on . but the medication didnt seem to help at all..the white patch just kept spreading and getting bigger.

    BUT on the bright side, recently i had a swordtail that had a very light patch on her head and after some medication and 100% water changes everyday, she's now up and active again.

    So i think you shouldnt use too much medication, just do lots of water changes. Hope your guppys get better! all the best
     
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    My tank isn't that established so I wouldn't do a complete 100 % water change but will continue to do water changes. It would destroy my cycle that was long awaited.

    Thanks for the well wishes tho... I will see how they are doing when I get home.

    I'll ease up on medication and turn down the heat.
     
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    do keep us updated
     
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    I hope this doesn't end up being Columnaris. That white area on that fish is a bit worrisome. Columnaris travels fish to fish and is a gram negative bacteria. I had fish once with it and treated with Maracyn 2.
     
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    sorry to barge my way in again.... what does gram negative mean?
     
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    From what I see online via google images... it looks a little like that.

    Is that medication ok for cories... I'd hate to kill them with medication.
     
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    Gram negative is a bacteria I believe.
     
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    Corries should be fine with medication.
     
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    Sadly one more has passed away.

    The remaining guppies are looking poorly... both ate tho.

    Going to set up a hospital tank tonight and try the medication suggested. Based on photos and symptoms... I think it's columnaris.. not sure of spelling.

    Wish me luck that I can save them both.

    I was planning on getting three 10 gallon tanks tomorrow night for this very emergency but looks like I need something sooner. This disease sucks and kills quickly.
     
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    I'm sorry Hopefully the culprit reveals itself soon!
     
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    So sad to here that your guppy died hope the other two will be OK
     
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