So tired of dog breed discrimination

HOWsMom
  • #41
Okay - I have found that the UKC recognizes the American Pit Bull Terrier.



It is not recognized by the AKC though.
 
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pitbull_nc
  • #42
Correction. The akc only recognizes staffordshire but the ukc and the adba do and the akc is still trying to get it passed. However I think this still shows my point that they're a specific breed
 
slashgash
  • Thread Starter
  • #43
Ive only once in my life been bitten by a dog, and it was a lab. And it wasn't a little bite, this dog went for my throat but I put my arm up to block it and he tore open my arm. All because a dog that was in heat was sitting next to me. He didnt like me being near her. I have 2 lab/gsd mixes as well as the boxer/pitt mix and theyre all so friendly. But even the bigger one sometimes people get a little scared of because he's a 'talker' He will bark, and whine, and make noises that kinda sound like a growl but really isn't when he wants something. Mainly when he wants to play.
 
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Cichlidnut
  • #44
The only dogs that have bitten me with intent to do harm have been small ones. A Pomeranian bit me pretty hard and I used to dog sit this Maltese that was evil! that thing would bite all the time.

one of my dogs is a "talker" too lol. She kinda sounds like Chewbacca.
 
slashgash
  • Thread Starter
  • #45
Bolt kinda sounds like chewbacca to. Lol. But my kitten is more viscous than any of my dogs.
 
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Akari_32
  • #46
Bolt kinda sounds like chewbacca to. Lol. But my kitten is more viscous than any of my dogs.

OMG don't screw with a hyper kitten I came home from the Humane Society many times covered in scratches from playing with the psycho kitties
 
slashgash
  • Thread Starter
  • #47
Lol. My cat earned herself the nickname demon Kitty. She's a sweetheart but a total spazz. Ill be petting Her and shell be purring then randomly jump up and attack my hand then run away. Lol
 
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psalm18.2
  • #48
:;bI have a Great Dane, a Boxer, a pitbull and two small dogs. They are the sweetest things in the world. But when people see me on the street with them they turn and run. I actually had a man jump on the roof of car and scream at me. So, I started walking them 5:00 am in the morning so people didn't hastle me. When people actually take the time to get to know my dogs they usually end up rolling around in the grass with them getting slobbered on. Everyone always thinks my Boxer is this vicious Pitbull. I get very tired of explaining that my dogs are harmless. I do not behave the same way when I see other people's pitbulls or large dogs.:;bb

Too funny! I get that reaction at Petco so I don't go there. I go to another place that loves her. One day she hid behind my leg when a little poodle dog barked. I said "ya, big scary pitbul, she's afraid of a little dog." Everyone was laughing.
I adore that puppy!
 

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slashgash
  • Thread Starter
  • #49
That's a beautiful dog

I'm writing a cause and effect paper in school.I should write about the causes of breed discrimination.
 
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Akari_32
  • #50
I'm writing a cause and effect paper in school.I should write about the causes of breed discrimination.

I've got tons of info and links I could PM you if you'd like.
 
psalm18.2
  • #51
That's a beautiful dog
Thanks. Many people were sad when I didn't breed her.
 
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Cichlidnut
  • #52
To me, breed discrimination is right up there with racism. Do I like dogs too much? lol
 
psalm18.2
  • #53
Breed discrimination is racism, of a dog's breed.
Owners of "bully" breeds just need to be more responsible because of the breed. I know my dog's limit and fears. I know what she will bark at and I trained her well. Although it is nice to scare off strangers who come to the house. We live in the woods. All I have to say is pit bull when they hear the barking. Makes me feel safer.
Sometimes discrimination is useful.
 
sirdarksol
  • #54
To me, breed discrimination is right up there with racism. Do I like dogs too much? lol

There are similarities. There are also differences.
Different breeds of dog do have different issues. Many of the dogs believed to be violent are so because they are very protective of the people they see as family, and because they sometimes make very bad snap judgments, not recognizing a circumstance as something other than violence. One kid tickling another, or friends hugging, or a hand being too quickly put on someone's shoulder is seen as a threat to family, and the dog leaps to the defense. As Psalm says, you know your dog, know its breed, and treat it accordingly.

However, dogs are individuals, and all breeds of dog are domesticated enough that they aren't simply violent. Any claim that "this breed is dangerous" is based on a frightening combination of ignorance, fear, and kernels of truth. All dogs are dangerous. The smallest dog can break the skin and damage muscles, tendons, and blood vessels. They are hunting animals. Their jaws and teeth were made to hurt things. But all breeds can learn to work with humans, as long as the humans learn to work with them.
 
psalm18.2
  • #55
There are similarities. There are also differences.
Different breeds of dog do have different issues. Many of the dogs believed to be violent are so because they are very protective of the people they see as family, and because they sometimes make very bad snap judgments, not recognizing a circumstance as something other than violence. One kid tickling another, or friends hugging, or a hand being too quickly put on someone's shoulder is seen as a threat to family, and the dog leaps to the defense. As Psalm says, you know your dog, know its breed, and treat it accordingly.

However, dogs are individuals, and all breeds of dog are domesticated enough that they aren't simply violent. Any claim that "this breed is dangerous" is based on a frightening combination of ignorance, fear, and kernels of truth. All dogs are dangerous. The smallest dog can break the skin and damage muscles, tendons, and blood vessels. They are hunting animals. Their jaws and teeth were made to hurt things. But all breeds can learn to work with humans, as long as the humans learn to work with them.
Good point. Yes, my dog is a "bully" for a reason and very protective. While she hasnt bitten, would she, yes, given the circumstances. I hope she would protect me if someone attacked me. Pitbulls, mastiffs, rotties, etc have reputations for a reason. We can't ignore that. Can they be trained to obey their masters? Definetly! Is a well trained bully dog as dangerous as an untrained nice breed, no.
 
Cichlidnut
  • #56
I've had a lot of people ask if my dogs are pit bulls. I don't think they even look close.

Here they are giving each other kisses.
 
Akari_32
  • #57
That's when you say "Yes, and they like the taste of human flesh." XD
 
bolivianbaby
  • #58
Nope, those aren't pits.

These are pits
 

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Akari_32
  • #59
OMG I want that fluffy puppy X3
 
I keep fish
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Akari_32
  • #61
slashgash
  • Thread Starter
  • #62
I've got tons of info and links I could PM you if you'd like.

That would be great! Thank you!

Nope, those aren't pits.

These are pits

That blue brindle looking one is soooo cute. *steals and runs away*
 
psalm18.2
  • #63
Ever see a grown pit talk? Here's my girl "telling" me her ball is lost and needs my help. Notice when she shakes her head, that's her saying "come on".
 
bolivianbaby
  • #64
All 3 of those girls have been adopted into wonderful forever homes. LOL! Those pics were from last summer. I will post my new pit fosters soon
 
Slug
  • #65
Don't think I've responded to this thread before, but I dislike this too. Especially since I am apartment hunting currently and everywhere is pet friendly, and big dogs welcome....yet breed restriction. I plan to have a German Shepherd...that's what I want, and have always wanted, yet would not be able to keep one in any of these places because of the restriction and blind fear people have. Really aggravating.

My friend owns one of the most loving, docile dogs I've ever seen in my life....its a pit.
 
Akari_32
  • #66
Don't think I've responded to this thread before, but I dislike this too. Especially since I am apartment hunting currently and everywhere is pet friendly, and big dogs welcome....yet breed restriction. I plan to have a German Shepherd...that's what I want, and have always wanted, yet would not be able to keep one in any of these places because of the restriction and blind fear people have. Really aggravating.

My friend owns one of the most loving, docile dogs I've ever seen in my life....its a pit.

One of the places I was looking at with my friend (a big new fancy apartment complex, pet friendly, private dog park, kiddie play area, trails, and stuff), charges $400 PER PET (up to two) up front, and then the web site says "Breed restrictions apply." I can just about bet they wouldn't let me have my 130 pound Rot mix in there -_- (besides the fact that I'm not about to pay $800 just to house two large dogs with me and 1-2 other people in a small apartment. Not gunna happen, 'kay thanks.).
 
Cichlidnut
  • #67
$400 per pet really isn't that strange.
 
Akari_32
  • #68
$400 per pet really isn't that strange.

That's freaking stupid, which is why we are looking to rent a house now, and not an apartment. Plus, I'm looking to rent from a family member (who I don't actually have too much of a relationship with, so it'll be like renting from an acquaintance), so that'll put the odds a bit more in my favor for being able to keep my dog with me and not with my mom when I move out.

BUT, in their defense, its a BRAND new complex, and is super nice, so I'd bet once the builds got older, the pet price will go down.

Still stupid, though.
 
Cichlidnut
  • #69
There are a lot of people that don't take proper care of their pets. $400 doesn't come close to replacing carpet in an entire apartment. So really, they're being nice ;D
 
Akari_32
  • #70
By the looks of this place, if you can afford it, you can afford to take care of your pets (unless of course, you SPEND all your money on getting into this place )
 
sirdarksol
  • #71
Rental laws change from state to state, but around here, you only have to pay a down payment on having pets. If you leave and the pets haven't destroyed the place, you get the money back.
 
Akari_32
  • #72
Rental laws change from state to state, but around here, you only have to pay a down payment on having pets. If you leave and the pets haven't destroyed the place, you get the money back.

I don't mind the down payment, its just the $400 per pet that I mind. I don't think its given back when you leave, either. It says 'non-refundable' on the site, but after seeing that they had breed restrictions, I didn't look any further into it, because of my Rot mix.
 
LyndaB
  • #73
That's freaking stupid,

Welcome to the wonderful world of renting. I've been really lucky back in my renting days. I would rent an apartment in a 2-3 family house and the landlords would never charge me a deposit or anything additional for my dogs, one of which was a full grown male St. Bernard. These apartments are out there, you just have to know how and where to look for them.
 
Akari_32
  • #74
Welcome to the wonderful world of renting. I've been really lucky back in my renting days. I would rent an apartment in a 2-3 family house and the landlords would never charge me a deposit or anything additional for my dogs, one of which was a full grown male St. Bernard. These apartments are out there, you just have to know how and where to look for them.

Right? lol I think asking my uncle to rent to me will work out though, for keeping my dogs with me, and not having to pay for them to live there.

There are lots of other rental housed though that are pet friendly, because of the area. Lots of beaches and dog parks and state parks. It seems to me that its about 50/50 with them having breed or weight restrictions.
 
LyndaB
  • #75
If you're talking apartment complex, you're talking deposits and breed restrictions. If you're talking 2-3 family house owned by Joe and Edna Smith, who've had 27 dogs during their 60 years of marriage, you're talking no deposit and no restrictions and they'll probably drop off dog food every now and then just to see the dogs.
 
Akari_32
  • #76
If you're talking apartment complex, you're talking deposits and breed restrictions. If you're talking 2-3 family house owned by Joe and Edna Smith, who've had 27 dogs during their 60 years of marriage, you're talking no deposit and no restrictions and they'll probably drop off dog food every now and then just to see the dogs.

We're looking into single family, 1-2 bedroom, renal houses. That's about all you can get here, with out going into a condo or apartment complex. The houses here are pretty old (20 or so years, little concrete block beasts ), but are usually kept up. The new houses have Chinese Drywall, and aren't usually rentals, and the companies want to get rid of them, so they are selling these huge 3 and 4 bedroom houses for really cheap (its illegal for these houses to be on the market, BTW). The trick here is getting a decent house at a decent price (be it renting or buying) in a decent neighborhood. Thankfully, my uncle ONLY has rentals in good neighborhoods, not that my Rot couldn't keep away the baddies (does it almost nightly, in fact, where my mom lives <.<). He always been nice to me, even though we haven't got much of a relationship.

That would be great! Thank you!

:mail2:
 
konstargirl
  • #77
>< I hate it when dogs get discriminated and such. It's not the dogs fault, it's how the stupid owners raise them..
 
slashgash
  • Thread Starter
  • #78
I'm currently renting a 2 bedroom trailer in a really nice trailer park. lol. Before I saw these trailers, I never knew nice trailers existed. But, they have breed restrictions. So, they think storm is just a boxer mix. But they also ask for pictures of every animal living in the trailer park, so they can keep tabs on them I guess. I don't really know why.
 
nippybetta
  • #79
The guy I bought my 75 gallon from had 2 dogs- one was a pitbull, the other the kind of dog they were modeled after (I forget the breed). They were both really sweet. The pitbull wouldn't stop licking my fingers. She had been raised poorly too, and her ears almost looked clipped. The guy got her when she was about 7 months old and really timid, and now she's a bundle of joy.
Still, my mom owns a preschool on the property, and we can't afford to be accused of a dog attack by a pitbull, especially considering the stereotyping they go through. We have a lab, which are known for being nice, although I might add that they're crazy as puppies and for 2+ years afterwards.
 
slashgash
  • Thread Starter
  • #80
We have a lab, which are known for being nice, although I might add that they're crazy as puppies and for 2+ years afterwards.


I completetly agree, I have two labs that I got young. My 3 year old is just calming down. The 12 year old has always been calm.
 

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