So im thinking my fishroom have an outbreak

ponitboss
  • #1
It started with livebearers (swordtails, mollies,guppies and platies) which mostly all died symptoms was white stringy poop, dropsy, wasting away and looking healthy and just dying. Treated with prazipro, metronidazole (which worked for the swordtails only nothing else the swords all had string white poop and all recovered) ciprofloxacin, para guard. Now for this week I lost 4 guppies and 1 bosemani rainbowfish to dropsy, 1 neon rosy barb is very thin and only spitting out his food so looking to lost her also and of today 1 of my male apistogramma have dropsy and female apistogramma is thin eating good normal colour poop but not getting fatter
I did manage to treat the guppy tank with dropsy with erythromycin and a male guppy who tail was tear up and was swimming oddly but his tail healed during the treatment and he looks alot better but the females died of dropsy. What should I do i dont want to lose all my fish
 
Utar
  • #2
So sorry this is happening to you and I wished I could help, but I don't have a clue. I read threads like yours to learn because one day this might happen to me. But out of curiosity, when did the all start.
 
FishBoy101
  • #3
Gl, hope it gets better. Maybe just uses some general medicine.
 
kallililly1973
  • #4
What are your water parameters in your tank as well as your source water. Has anything changed in any of the tanks? WC % weekly? That will give everyone a good place to start with advice.
 
ponitboss
  • Thread Starter
  • #5
So sorry this is happening to you and I wished I could help, but I don't have a clue. I read threads like yours to learn because one day this might happen to me. But out of curiosity, when did the all start.

Started in March

What are your water parameters in your tank as well as your source water. Has anything changed in any of the tanks? WC % weekly? That will give everyone a good place to start with advice.
Tank
Ph 8.4 ammonia 0 nitrite 0 nitrate 20
Tap
Ph 8.4 ammonia 0 nitrite o nitrate 80

In the apistogramma and shrimp tank I use ro water so ph 7.4 ammonia 0 nitrite 0 nitrate around 5

Water change 25% weekly only change was I got some hornwort from a guy then later heard he had camallanus worms but haven't seen any at all in none of my fish I even cut open a couple dead fish and saw none, plus most of the fish dying from dropsy
 
kallililly1973
  • #6
Started in March


Tank
Ph 8.4 ammonia 0 nitrite 0 nitrate 20
Tap
Ph 8.4 ammonia 0 nitrite o nitrate 80

In the apistogramma and shrimp tank I use ro water so ph 7.4 ammonia 0 nitrite 0 nitrate around 5

Water change 25% weekly only change was I got some hornwort from a guy then later heard he had camallanus worms but haven't seen any at all in none of my fish I even cut open a couple dead fish and saw none, plus most of the fish dying from dropsy
Interesting not a disease or illness pro but could it be the higher PH? How are your apistos and shrimp doing in the 7.4 PH? Also depending on the amount of fish you have in each tank maybe moving up to a 50-75% weekly WC could help. I like to do no less than 50% weekly in our tanks.
 
ponitboss
  • Thread Starter
  • #7
Interesting not a disease or illness pro but could it be the higher PH? How are your apistos and shrimp doing in the 7.4 PH? Also depending on the amount of fish you have in each tank maybe moving up to a 50-75% weekly WC could help. I like to do no less than 50% weekly in our tanks.

I only have like 8 fish the most in a tank don't know if the high ph is a problem the shrimp and apistogramma doing well is the 7.4 ph and breeding I even have babies in straight tap water since last year July and no problem with them. Will try potassium permanganate and see what happens. Only fish not touched are African cichlids and bristlenose
 
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Kjeldsen
  • #8
Must be disheartening. These symptoms are all over the place, from wasting to dropsy to looking healthy. Dropsy isn't contagious in itself, and almost always due to environmental causes, so imo something about the water is the root cause of this. Maybe something that isn't normally tested for. Any ammonia spikes from the erythromycin, temperature fluctuations? Aside from the medications you listed has anything else gone into the tanks?
 
ponitboss
  • Thread Starter
  • #9
Must be disheartening. These symptoms are all over the place, from wasting to dropsy to looking healthy. Dropsy isn't contagious in itself, and almost always due to environmental causes, so imo something about the water is the root cause of this. Maybe something that isn't normally tested for. Any ammonia spikes from the erythromycin, temperature fluctuations? Aside from the medications you listed has anything else gone into the tanks?

No nothing else goes into the tanks no ammonia spikes, temperature may fluctuate at night a bit but the fish have been living 5 years without any problems until March this year
 
smee82
  • #10
Honestly with white stringy poop and not gaining weight it sounds like a bad case of worms.
 
ponitboss
  • Thread Starter
  • #11
Honestly with white stringy poop and not gaining weight it sounds like a bad case of worms.

Yes but I treated with prazipro unless I should try levamisole but I'm trying potassium permanganate right now so hoping it works, the not gain weight is only in 2 fish right now the main problem is the dropsy which was in multiple tanks an I read it's not contagious so idk
 
feeshi
  • #12
Noticed any swollen gills/ heavy breathing? Are any of the fish rubbing against objects?
 
smee82
  • #13
Yes but I treated with prazipro unless I should try levamisole but I'm trying right now so hoping it works, the not gain weight is only in 2 fish right now the main problem is the dropsy which was in multiple tanks an I read it's not contagious so idk

Dropsy is a symptom not a cause so you cant use it to diagnose the problem.
One problem with multiple tanks is you run the risk of reintroducing something if you share equipment between tanks.
 
ponitboss
  • Thread Starter
  • #14
Noticed any swollen gills/ heavy breathing? Are any of the fish rubbing against objects?

Notice heavy breathing with the fish that has or had the dropsy
 
ponitboss
  • Thread Starter
  • #15
So if prazipro isn't working what other internal parasite treatment can I use? This is the apistogramma she finally have white stringy poop but is eating well. But it could be because of stress from using potassium permanganate I'm treating my whole fishroom with it I'm half way done now, tomorrow all the tanks should be finish treating
 

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