so angry with myself!!!!please help

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thanks in advance im kinda sleeping on the keyboard!!!! zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
 

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Ammonia should ideally be ZERO, so when you find that there *is* ammonia, you should do a water change. Same for nitrite. I'd vary the percentage changed out depending on how much you find -- find just a little, change out 20%, treat new water. If you find a lot (look at the chart), do 50% changes daily for a few days (always treat the water with conditioner). If you see zero ammonia and zero nitrite, then I would default to doing water changes depending on the nitrate (with an A). Do a maintenance change (15-25%) when your nitrates hit 20-25ppm or so.
 

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just to clarify very quickly....
wait for the ammonia to reach exactly how much before doing the daily water changes for a few days (is 10% enough)?
As soon as it gets above zero, start with the water changes. I would say 25% minimum, so long as your amoonia isn't above .25, anything above that and you want to go closer to 50%.

If you get the LFS to keep your fish for a few days, you could empty the tank, and refill it (using Aqua Safe for your water conditioner), put new filter media in, let it run for 24 hours, then add SafeStart and your fish.
 
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Hi all, thanks so much again for all your advice its soo appreciated!!!!
been to the lfs and bought a water test kit they never had the api but i got the next best one its nutrafin master kit it was £30!! i thought that was alot!!!
never mind its probabley the most important bit of kit i have!!!

lfs checked my water... o ammonia, trace nitrite and ph 8!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
i nearly collapsedd!!! for years i have been trying to get my ph up for malawis always getting 6.5 on my strips!!!

so been adding ph up for nothing!!!!!

at the moment have added 6 large pieces of bogwood to try and soften the water dont wanna really add chemicals if i can from now on!!!!!!!!!!

so with those results the lfs told me to hold off water changes and await resulys. he thinks that the media trasnfer may have helped?
what do you guys think as i trust you all alot more¬!!!
 

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pH altering chemicals are bad news, good call not adding them anymore. Can crash a tank. There are some good links in this thread:
 
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hi could it be good news or have i got it wrong again!!!

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quick recap
day 1 water in 350l tank and 6 lrge pieces of bogwood
day 2 chlorine control and 1/2 bottle cycle with 3 large clown loach
day 4 added 35% filter media from other tank into filter
day 6 water checked at shop ph 8, no ammonia no nitrite. guy stated water perfect???
day 8 checked with my own water kit..(1st time)
its nutrafin so its quite generalised (ie look at colours on chart)_
nitrate 10
nitrite 0 no colour change at all
ammonia no colour chnage at all
ph between 7-7.5
all tests completed properly and times stated on instructions

im lost where am i in the cycling process?
 

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Zero ammonia/nitrite with some nitrate mean that you're cycled. It sounds like you're good!

My only caveat is that you should just monitor your cycle with daily tests for a few days just to make sure that you're stable (and that ammonia and nitrite remain 0). You're no longer dosing Cycle, right? You only dosed it on day 2?
 
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yes thats right... few things make me wonder though...
should i add the other 1/2 of the cycle?
also i should have seen a spike of nitrite and ammonia which i havent?>> but i only tested the water on day 6 and 8 could it have cycled that quickly?>
 

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Depends a lot on the bioload as to how the spikes will go. I would avoid using cycle myself, just keep testing looks good so far
 
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thanks so much...will keep an eye on the reading will test on alternate days...!
yipee!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

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I'll also second jetajockey with not adding the Cycle.

Glad things are working out! It's a good feeling, heh.
 
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hi do you guys think that i should add some more fish then...if i have cycled?
will def take some water for testing as i really dont trust my own readings!!!
:;br
 

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if you are getting 0 ammonia readings then yes, but slowly, if possible only add them 1 at a time so that the biological filter can catch up and not be overloaded

*edit* I'm not completely sure what you have in the tank, and the tank size, are you following a basic stocking guideline?
 
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thanks alot
got 350l
3 large clown loach approx 10cm each
want large fire eel
paroon shark
datniod flagtail etc
 
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