Sick Female Ram Help

Discussion in 'Freshwater Fish Disease' started by Brozac, Apr 14, 2019.

  1. BrozacNew MemberMember

    Hello everyone!

    My female Ram (not sure which variety but not blue) is unwell and I would really appreciate your help and knowledge to keep her alive. Thanks for reading!

    For reference the male seems (fingers crossed) fine and healthy, colours and behaviour normal.


    What is the water volume of the tank? - 90 litres
    How long has the tank been running? - Around a year and a half
    Does it have a filter? Yes - Tetra EX800 plus
    Does it have a heater? Yes - Fluval E100
    What is the water temperature? 25
    What is the entire stocking of this tank? (Please list all fish and inverts.)
    1 Rubberlip pleco (again unsure of what actual species but pretty sure it's a rubberlip
    6 Honey Gourami
    1 Skunk Corydora (long story)
    2 Rams - 1 male 1 female - female sick
    2 Amano Shrimp
    6? Cherry Shrimp - Baby shrimp too I think
    2 Small Assassin snails.

    How often do you change the water? Once a week
    How much of the water do you change? 25%
    What do you use to treat your water? Seachem Prime
    Do you vacuum the substrate or just the water? Usually vacuum but sometimes just water

    *Parameters - Very Important
    Did you cycle your tank before adding fish? Yes
    What do you use to test the water? JBL Proscan - NT Labs liquid test kit
    What are your parameters? We need to know the exact numbers, not just “fine” or “safe”.

    Ammonia: 0
    Nitrite: 0
    Nitrate: 18 mg/l
    pH: 6.8

    How often do you feed your fish? Once per day
    How much do you feed your fish? A small sprinkling of sinking pellets and one algae wafer
    What brand of food do you feed your fish? Various. Fluval Bug Bites, Fluval Flake, NT Labs Probiotic Ocean Nutrition Algae wafers.
    Do you feed frozen or freeze-dried foods? Frozen brine shrimp once every 10 days

    Illness & Symptoms
    How long have you had this fish? Not long, two weeks
    How long ago did you first notice these symptoms? 4 days ago
    In a few words, can you explain the symptoms? Bloated belly, Loss of colour and appetite, White mark on base of top fin but not on the fin itself. Heavy breathing
    Have you started any treatment for the illness? Anti Bacterial (Interpet) and Salt (Interpet)
    Was your fish physically ill or injured upon purchase? No, pair were bought together and looked very healthy
    How has its behavior and appearance changed, if at all? Sitting at tank floor, not active, significantly darkened markings

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  2. coralbanditWell Known MemberMember

    Looks like bacterial issue at base of dorsal .
    Is the fish being picked on ?
    Looks like a non dark black ram and I am not 100% on it being female ?
  3. BrozacNew MemberMember

    Thanks for getting back so quickly, as far as I know it isn't being picked on, I haven't seen any aggressive behaviour towards her from the other Ram, or anything else in the tank unless it's when the light is off. I obviously have no way of verifying that it's a female but I have a picture of them both before the fish got sick and maybe that might help clear things up?

    The ram I call female is to the right.

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  4. coralbanditWell Known MemberMember

  5. AquaticJFishlore VIPMember

    I would agree something bacterial, and both males. Although both of the pictures he/she is pale, and does have a shorter analfin than the other. But based on the pictures, I’d say two males.

    This looks exactly like what would happen when I had store bought Rams. Randomly they darken, and sit on the bottom, then die. Unfortunately.

    Something else to note, 25 Celsius (77 F) is too cold.
  6. BrozacNew MemberMember

    Thanks for the temperature info, I guess I'll just see how it goes then. Out of interest what does the female look like?