Should I stop using bacterial supplements

anz
  • #1
Please help. I'm new to fish keeping. I got a new 55 gal tank. Put water in 2 weeks ago, then added filter for one day before getting fish. I used TopFin declorinator and Bacterial Supplement before adding the fish. I have done 5-10 gal water changes at least two times per week. I have 4 fish. A yellow lab, pleco, acie and one "assorted" cichlid.

After reading some threads on cycling a tank, it looks like I should stop using the bacterial supplement because it may prevent the tank from cycling properly.
I've tested my water every couple of days and all levels have been at zero, with the exception of two days ago with the ammonia "appeard" to be at .25.

I am truly confused about how I should proceed. Should I stop using the supplement and just let the tank cycle on it's own? Please help with any feedback. thanks.
 
LyndaB
  • #2
You'll have to be very diligent with water changes when cycling with fish. And you have some fish with large bioloads.

What test kit are you using?

Now that you read up on the nitrogen cycle, you know that the way you started off made no difference as to the actual cycling process. Most likely, your bacterial supplement is worthless, too. Most are.

Do you know which species of pleco you have?
 
LyndaB
  • #4
You do know that this pleco can reach 15 inches?

Cycling generally takes from 4-6 weeks. You're two weeks in?
 
Jaysee
  • #5
Welcome to the forum anz

I generally don't like to pay for what occurs naturally. Getting a natural cycle is a lot more work initially, but the payoff is there and it's worth it. Your fish (and your wallet) will be happier in the long run.
 
sirdarksol
  • #6
Welcome to Fishlore!

My opinion on cycling is this:
Best to cycle with used filter media from another tank.
Failing that, cycle fishless.
Failing that, either use Tetra Safe Start (one of the very few bacterial supplements that works long-term), or settle in with a Python water change system and a jug of Prime (or equivalent product) and do water changes to keep the fish alive.

Most of the other bacterial supplements will simply drain your wallet of money and increase your likelihood of a cycle crash. TSS drains cash from your wallet, but at least it usually works.

You do know that this pleco can reach 15 inches?

I've seen almost 2'. And I'm not talking about "I've seen reference to almost 2'," I mean that I've seen a pleco that was nearly 2' long. It was kept in a custom tank made by one of the Minnesota Aquarium Society people, and was old. Fed right, and kept in wonderful conditions, these guys can match many of "monster" fish for size.
 
anz
  • Thread Starter
  • #7
LyndaB, Are you saying that I need to do more frequent water changes? No, I did not know that this pleco could get that big! Yes, I'm 2 weeks in. Started March 1.
 
anz
  • Thread Starter
  • #8
Welcome to Fishlore!

My opinion on cycling is this:
Best to cycle with used filter media from another tank.
Failing that, cycle fishless.
Failing that, either use Tetra Safe Start (one of the very few bacterial supplements that works long-term), or settle in with a Python water change system and a jug of Prime (or equivalent product) and do water changes to keep the fish alive.

Most of the other bacterial supplements will simply drain your wallet of money and increase your likelihood of a cycle crash. TSS drains cash from your wallet, but at least it usually works.



I've seen almost 2'. And I'm not talking about "I've seen reference to almost 2'," I mean that I've seen a pleco that was nearly 2' long. It was kept in a custom tank made by one of the Minnesota Aquarium Society people, and was old. Fed right, and kept in wonderful conditions, these guys can match many of "monster" fish for size.

What is Prime?
 
LyndaB
  • #9


Prime is (in my humble opinion) the best dechlorinator available.

Yes, many many many water changes are in your near future, and I didn't need a crystal ball to show me that.
 
anz
  • Thread Starter
  • #10
Thanks! Wish me luck.
 
LyndaB
  • #11
Let us know how things are going. Ask questions if you need more help!
 
JessiNoel21
  • #12
I love Prime it is a life saver and great on the wallet too
 
anz
  • Thread Starter
  • #13
Forgive me for I know not what I do! Over the last couple of days, I have done daily water changes and added Prime with each change. At first, it looked like the fish were doing better. Well this morning one was dead and the others look like they will not survive as well. I feel horrible.

My question now is if my tank will continue to cycle without fish? My ammonia is at .25. Nitrite is 0. Please help. I don't want any more fish to suffer for my lack of knowledge.
 
Jaysee
  • #14
if you wind up losing all the fish, you can continue to cycle the tank without fish by adding ammonia to the tank.
 

Similar Aquarium Threads

Replies
6
Views
482
imba
Replies
21
Views
3K
CindiL
Replies
6
Views
1K
thorpbrian
Replies
21
Views
1K
Treyce107
Replies
29
Views
53K
Celebrindal
Top Bottom