Set up a fish bowl with tiny shrimp? (Very Small Fish Suitable For A 8"/8" Bowl)

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ashbonsai1200

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I'm very confused, but very into not killing? I want to try shrimp - possible?

This is a continuation of [h=1]Very Small Fish Suitable For A 8"/8" Bowl - https://www.fishlore.com/fishforum/freshwater-beginners/233481-very-small-fish-suitable-8-8-bowl.html#post2440850[/h]
I had asked this question and was told that no fish is suitable for this. Other issues are I live in India and Fish care as a hobby is much less popular, so I don't have an access to a lot of this.
My mom wanted to keep fish to de-stress. But we are short on money right now(reason for stress) and can't spend too much. I would spend as much as needed to keep the shrimp(s) comfy, o'course.
Situation, The bowl is small 8inch tall, 4inch radius(8inch across). No filter, no heater. Average temp in Bangalore, India - 25 C.

In the post I was told not to keep fish here. Also -

Agreed, no fish will be happy in there. What about shrimp? You can put ghost or cherry shrimp in there with no filter or heater.

Or you can simply get a few shrimp and a Marimo moss ball and take care of those.

you can do a shrimp tank, what you need is a good filtration system. the system you want is a natural planted shrimp system. some Java Moss and some shrimp should do you well. as long as your tank is in good temperature. with your flag i think your temperature would do well.

So, how to set up the bowl? Questions -

Q 1) Can I keep both types of shrimp together? Both male and female together? How many?

Q 2) FIlter is not suitable, I was told? So do I change a % of water daily or switch bowl every few days or what? Any plants that would fit and thrive and clean?

Q 3) Heating? I can put lights bulb/led on top if that helps? Any plants ^ same ^ that would heat if a higher temperature is needed? Or so I place our heater at a distance from the bowl?

Q 4) Food? What would they eat? How much?How often? What all options if i don't find the best?

Q 5) Bowl? sand/gravel/grass or what needed as the base? Any disinfectant? How to set up? Someone said I need to put drinking water in, not tap, is that true?

Q 6) How clean do the the shrimp need the water to be? How much care/attention do they need to stay alive? I'll take care, mom only looks, but I may not always be there in case of emergency - im out 6 hours a day, average.

Q 7) What about stress level? I heard something about fish getting stressed n dying? Same for shrimp?

Q 8) Length vs age? Age of breeding? Any site to refer if they get pregnant? What condition would they get pregnant in? Ill buy more bowls, but cant buy even a small tank, so - do I have to avoid pregnancy situations, it may calm mom(ill take the stress). But not if they are harmed

Q 9) How long to ghost/cherry shrimp live? Are they okay in India? Any other shrimp for a BEGINNER who is willing to care?

Q 10) What combinations(pls explain) of shrimp easy to find India and plants can I put in a 8"/8" bowl? Minimum preferred, i bet? It's 3500 cubic cm/ 9.2 gallons.

Q 11) What equipment do I need? Cheap minimum to keep them healthy? Guide/reason for use

Q 12) Do you know any sites/guides about the fish/plants that are suitable

Q 12.1) How do I know if the shrimp(s) are distressed/hungry, etc n whats up etc? Where to learn.

Q 13) Water - salt? medicine? anything to be added/removed

Q 14) What order to add what?

Pls refer to the question number to avoid confusion >.<

I have some limitations but I can also do a lot

Limitations - Low cost - No costly equipment/ plants/ etc.;Only 9.2 gallons. ; India - fewer items in fishcare. ; Can't run around in an emergency ; home solutions needed; complete beginner ; 25 C temp, water is lower temp;

Can do - daily tasks; Will travel when i can; Will spend up to a needed amount, minimum pls; will learn; I wont set up before I am sure; Do my best to find what's needed; and more

Pls answer as much as you can. Is there anyone I can personally talk to/will help?
I'm like something that crawled out of a rock - clueless. Baby at Beginners
Sorry For the inconvenience >.<

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I will be honest and speak my opinion ....

WAY too many members here insist on way larger fish tanks/aquariums than are needed to keep certain fish "happy" or alive.

Tons of people say beta's need at least 10g and a full setup including power filter, heater, etc and that is just not the case.

I know a few people (one being my mother) who keeps a single beta along with a floating live plant in a bowl that's maybe 2 gallons. It gets a 50% water change maybe once a week. It has no filtration, heater, etc. They have "well" water that is very hard (high in iron) and she adds NO water treatment at all. The beta has been living happily, eating, and active for over a year now.

I have a friend that works at a local pet store ... The beta's they sell come in a very small plastic container (maybe 10oz of water). Sometimes they end up staying in those containers for months. If a beta can survive that small of a container surely it can survive a much larger bowl especially with a live plant to feed off of.
 

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Hi Ash,
I can agree with g25racer above, i also had fighting fish in bowls, 5 of them. No filter, no heater or live plants for many months until i found this site. They were fine, i was even doing weekly water changes and putting them right back in fresh cold water. Little did i know this would have shocked them, but they didn't seem to mind. They are all in tanks now 15 litres and up with filters and heaters, and yes they are ALL still alive. I would not however advice that you do this now, because i have learnt that its not best for these fish.
On the shrimp subject, i have no clue about shrimp sorry!
 

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g25racer, Starting with the last thing you said, Bettas do not eat plants!!!

Besides that, surviving is not the same as thriving. You'd survive too if you were locked in a closet and had food pushed under the door. Fish are not robots, they are living creatures that need to not live in their own wastes, need to live in water of the right temperature, and need mental stimulation. Not much maybe, it can be as simple as having enough space to move freely, but some.

Bettas are tough. Doesn't mean they should be treated with less care.
 

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You could do cherry shrimp, they are smaller - you could use a sponge filter (powered by an air pump) to filter the tank and lessen the spikes in ammonia or other. Shrimp will breed to the capacity of their tank (not enough food/space restricts them - make sure to feed them well though - they like fresh veggies) and are surprisingly easy to care for but they still need care. 77 degrees is okay for them (25c) if it stays around that temp. They are neat to look at as they swim around.
They will get pregnant if you have both males and females, the females getting berried (eggs under tail) and they hatch out as fully formed shrimp miniatures. They do not eat their babies most of the time, give them plants to hide in and they will be fine.
Salt is a no - the shrimp, if they do not like the water, will leave it. They need some minerals to help them molt but your water should have most of what they need. Try to find invertebrate-safe medicines, otherwise it might kill the shrimp. I use prime in my tanks even though I have well water, my shrimp don't mind it and it helps with ammonia. Shrimp have a very low bioload but need a cycled tank before you drop them in (they are sensitive) - if you know anyone with a cycled tank ask for some of their filter media to add to yours.
Mosses and anubias are normally pretty cheap and shrimp love them. You can put a little clip-on light so you can see and give the plants more light.
I would set up the tank first, sand or gravel base (sand might be better), that way you have time to cycle it before you get the shrimp (recommend starting with 6 or so as most sites/places can sell them in those numbers easier) with plants added in.

Betta are not good choices for bowls because they need a heater and filter - despite the rumor/old tales of them living in the hoofprint of a water buffalo they do not actually live in those hoofprints, that is during the dry season where many of them die in those hoofprints. They like having more space, but many can do with less than a ten gallon (3 gallon is the minimum, but it needs a filter and heater and smaller tanks like that are harder to heat evenly). Most of mine are in ten gallons and enjoy every inch of the space.
If you wanted to do a betta you would need a heater to keep the temperature steady year-round, a sponge filter would work as the filtration - they like plants as well. The tank size needs to be larger than 3 gallons and have lots of surface area as bettas are labyrinth fish that can breathe air.
 
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