Seachem Stability Doing Anything?

Discussion in 'Water Conditioners and Supplements' started by Tommy1284, Apr 16, 2018.

  1. Tommy1284

    Tommy1284 Valued Member Member

    Hey guys I had a question about seachem stability .

    I recently got a 36 gallon bow front tank. It has 2 mollys and 10 small guppies.

    I’ve been adding my prime and stability(today is a week). When I do all my water testing I still get 0’s across the board. Does this mean the stability isn’t really doing anything since there isn’t any ammonia in the tank to feed the B.B. ?
     
  2. TexasDomer

    TexasDomer Fishlore Legend Member

    How are you testing?

    Do you have a lot of plants in the tank?

    How long have you had the fish in there?

    There definitely is ammonia in the tank, as you have fish in there.
     
  3. OP
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    Tommy1284

    Tommy1284 Valued Member Member

    I’m testing with the api freshwater master test kit.
    No plants right now , but I intend to add them.

    Tank was set up last Saturday and fish were added Monday so today makes a week.

    I have the aquoen quite flow 30 and a air pump with a sponge filter for extra filtration.
     




  4. musserump09

    musserump09 Well Known Member Member

    Nitrate bottle #2 shake for 30 seconds before adding it correct?
     
  5. TexasDomer

    TexasDomer Fishlore Legend Member

    More than just shaking - I'd bang it on a hard surface a few times.
     
  6. OP
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    Tommy1284

    Tommy1284 Valued Member Member

    Yup I have a 10g and I use the same kit and it reads everything perfect
     
  7. Ellaphant

    Ellaphant New Member Member

    If your adding prime everyday, you may not be getting the right results. Wait until 24-48 hours before testing anything, if the results are the same then I guess you have pristine waters.
     
  8. OP
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    Tommy1284

    Tommy1284 Valued Member Member

    So when I got home today I had
    .25 ammonia
    0 nitrite
    0 nitrate
     
  9. DarkOne

    DarkOne Well Known Member Member

    You don't add both prime and stability, just stability. Prime is to dechlorinate tap water for water changes.
     
  10. OP
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    Tommy1284

    Tommy1284 Valued Member Member

    Nope only add stability for the first 7 days it says. Today was the 7th day.

    I only added prime the first day when I filled up
    The tank
     
  11. musserump09

    musserump09 Well Known Member Member

    Looks like an increase in dose and maybe double it all week. 38gal I would dose 40ml. Daily. I double does a tank once got it running smooth in two to 3 weeks with a similar set up to yours.
     
  12. OP
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    Tommy1284

    Tommy1284 Valued Member Member

    Ok great I will try that
     
  13. TexasGuppy

    TexasGuppy Well Known Member Member

    Ammonia and nitrites are toxic to fish. Prime will temporarily bind them for 24 to 48 hrs. As long as you have either, you should be daily dosing prime.
    Some people have said their fish survive without prime during cycling, but if it didn't kill them, it likely shortened thier lifespan.
     
  14. OP
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    Tommy1284

    Tommy1284 Valued Member Member

    Ya that’s what I had also read up on . And the prime won’t stall your cycle because it only binds the ammonia
     
  15. tanya9oceana

    tanya9oceana Valued Member Member

    I have heard that when you are cycling you should be careful with dosing Prime! ... The bacteria culture that eats ammonia needs the ammonia ... and if you are taking away their food they will starve and that will stall the cycle!

    I'm not very experienced, but I have heard that in many places and it seems quite logical :p
     
  16. bzambo66

    bzambo66 Valued Member Member

    So don't follow the instructions on prime then?
     
  17. DarkOne

    DarkOne Well Known Member Member

    Hard to say because Prime does bind ammonia to ammonium and they (Seachem) claim that BB can process it but some have had issues. Bottled bacteria like TSS+ is well known to have issues so it's highly recommended to wait at least 24h after using Prime to dose TSS+. Stability is supposed to work with Prime but some have noticed it doesn't work as well. There are many variables though so you should take all of this with a grain of salt.

    One thing to note when using any bacteria in a bottle is that you need to shake it really, really, really well.
     




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