Saltwater For Mantis Shrimp

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I've been cycling my 13.5 Gallon with aquavitro seed for 6 days now. It says that after 7 days the tank should be ready. I have live rock and live sand in the tank as well and have added chemi pure elite to my filtration.

I did a water parameter test today and here is where I am at:

High Range PH - 8.4
Ammonia - 0ppm
Nitrites - 0ppm
Nitrates - 40ppm

I'm supposed to be picking up my Mantis shrimp tomorrow.

Based on what I've read the nitrates are high, what can I do?

Could that number drop tomorrow once I dose the seed again?

Looking for any and all advice/info! Thanks
 

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Nitrates get lowered with water changes ..
I would change 50% tonight .That would /should leave you with 20ppm ..
The % you change is the % you lower nitrates or any other nutrient ..
 
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coralbandit said:
Nitrates get lowered with water changes ..
I would change 50% tonight .That would /should leave you with 20ppm ..
The % you change is the % you lower nitrates or any other nutrient ..
So it's ok to change it even if I'm cycling?
 

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0/0/ whatever over 0 indicate a cycled filter ?
Most marine keepers try to keep trates under 10ppm
Never used the aquavitro so can't really say ..
 
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coralbandit said:
0/0/ whatever over 0 indicate a cycled filter ?
Most marine keepers try to keep trates under 10ppm
Never used the aquavitro so can't really say ..
Ok. I will try doing a water change and see where I am at tomorrow!
 

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Chaeto will also help reduce nitrates and phosphates going forward. If you have the Fluval 13.5 tank it should have a space in the rear compartment for a small refugium. Just add a cheap LED grow light and periodically pull some out as it grows.
 
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coralbandit said:
0/0/ whatever over 0 indicate a cycled filter ?
Most marine keepers try to keep trates under 10ppm
Never used the aquavitro so can't really say ..
Success. I got the nitrates down to the 10ppm to 5ppm area.

Did the water change as you suggested.

My question now is, once I introduce the mantis, should I expect a spike in nitrates and be prepared to to a water change again in case?
 

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Nitrates will be caused by poop and feeding from this point forward (assuming the tank is cycled, which it sounds like it is). Chaeto will help keep the nitrate and phosphate levels down for you, but I would be prepared to do weekly water changes on that tank.
 
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Jesterrace said:
Nitrates will be caused by poop and feeding from this point forward (assuming the tank is cycled, which it sounds like it is). Chaeto will help keep the nitrate and phosphate levels down for you, but I would be prepared to do weekly water changes on that tank.
I've never grown chaeto. Can I buy it at my LFS? Just put it in this chamber which would be below the chemi pure elite?

Also, I was thinking every 2 weeks would work based on what I've read. You think every week would be better?
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Water changes are not only dictated by nitrates .
Changes of fresh water add trace elements used by different life in the tank ..
No harm in seeing how every other week goes .
Watch your trates and look for other possible deficiencies .
 
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coralbandit said:
Water changes are not only dictated by nitrates .
Changes of fresh water add trace elements used by different life in the tank ..
No harm in seeing how every other week goes .
Watch your trates and look for other possible deficiencies .
Well, Mantis has arrived... Acclimatizing right now. Fingers crossed everything else goes smoothly!
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PTVinnyMac said:
Well, Mantis has arrived... Acclimatizing right now. Fingers crossed everything else goes smoothly!
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***Update***

Mantis is in the tank, all comfy and exploring. She even got a blue legged hermit crab for her first meal. She's currently working on her crushing skills lol. I'll send pictures as I have some!!
 
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PTVinnyMac said:
***Update***

Mantis is in the tank, all comfy and exploring. She even got a blue legged hermit crab for her first meal. She's currently working on her crushing skills lol. I'll send pictures as I have some!!
He/she seems happy so far. Here's a pic I took just now. It's small but the coloration is quite nice. The clubs are very bright in color!!
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This is cool !
I had several mantis that arrived in live rock years ago ..
I took them back to LFS then but now I see them as an awesome pet ..
Nice thread !
 
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coralbandit said:
This is cool !
I had several mantis that arrived in live rock years ago ..
I took them back to LFS then but now I see them as an awesome pet ..
Nice thread !
They're just so fascinating to me!! I will be posting more as he/she gets comfy!!
 
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They're just so fascinating to me!! I will be posting more as he/she gets comfy!!
Doing well and investigating a little more!! I haven't had a chance to sex it yet, so no name still!!
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Doing well and investigating a little more!! I haven't had a chance to sex it yet, so no name still!!
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Very curious. I've put the tweezers in a few times. Knocked them once and gave them a hug the other few times. Hopefully this is a sign and it's not so much an aggressive one!
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Update? These little guys are super cool!
 
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It's a bit of a story, I'll condense it best I can. That one died in an unfortunate rock fall in the tank.

I bought a new one that was supposed to be a peacock and ended up being a different species from the Philippines. After a month, that one died too...

3rd time is a charm so far and the one I have now (I named him Grimlok) is doing well!!

He's an N.Wennerae and he's been pretty active. I've had him about 7 weeks.

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They need their rockscape built like African cichlids..The rocks get piled up from bottom of tank first and then gravel added so digging does not cause collapse.
Better luck with this guy ! They are cool .
 
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