Salt for most?

  1. pirahnah3 Fishlore VIP Member

    I was having a discussion with a former LFS owner and we were discussing tanks stocking and water quality. It got to the topic of aquarium salt and adding it to tanks.

    He told me that in almost all his tanks he dosed them with aquarium salt. We got into the discussion of some particular fish and he was mentioning that in most cases all the fish in the tanks seemed to color up better and be more active with the addition of the salt.

    Does anyone here have any more information on this or does anyone do this?
     
  2. Akari_32 Fishlore Legend Member

    I didn't notice any difference between salt and no salt when I bred guppies :;dk
     

  3. pirahnah3 Fishlore VIP Member

    Anyone else have anything on this one?
     
  4. sirdarksol Fishlore Legend Member

    Question for you:
    Does the local water supply come from underground aquifers, or something else?
     

  5. fresh water Member Member

    Iam also still using salt in all my tanks, I know some people dont agree with this practice but the LFS around here all use aquarium salt, so why not keep it the water quality the same. I did notice with the afican chiclids that they seemed to color up better with the salt added
     
  6. LyndaB Fishlore Legend Member

    I don't use or advise the use of salt in fresh tanks. :;2cents
     
  7. pprocyg Member Member

    I have gone back and forth with this as well. Currently I am not using salt in my tank but according to my LFS and LPS they use it in all their tanks and will not replace fish under warranty unless it shows salt in the water. Their claim is that most of the farms use it so the fish are used to it.
     

  8. pirahnah3 Fishlore VIP Member

    Mine comes from an on site artesian well, salinity has not been tested from a formal lab but so far no indicatoins that there is any indacation that there is any salt.
     
  9. fishy friend2 Member Member

    Read more: http://www.tropicalfishkeeping.com/c...#ixzz1ofdUt2M3
     
  10. Aquarist Fishlore Legend Member


  11. Akari_32 Fishlore Legend Member

    Funny. Me too! LOL
     
  12. Jaysee Fishlore Legend Member

    Me neither

    Just because the LFS does it doesn't mean it's a good practice. I mean, that's something we've been over time and time again. My excellent fish store has perpetually blue water. I imagine they use salt the same way, as they believe it will keep the fish healthier FOR THE TIME they are in the store. And it's not like there is an incentive for them to get you to start using a consumable product, that you'll have to keep buying over and over again.
     
  13. sirdarksol Fishlore Legend Member

    Do you know if the fish store gets water from the same supply?
    The reason I'm asking is that, if fish are kept in water that has very little mineral content, such as rainwater from a reservoir, their cells have to work to avoid becoming inundated with too much water. This is called osmotic stress. Each fish is made to handle a certain mineral content (not just salinity, as is indicated in the above quote, but all dissolved minerals).
    If fish are being kept in too-soft water, the addition of any mineral will help matters, though there are some that are better than others (calcium is better than salt in most cases). This is why fresh water is noticing a marked difference in the cichlids: They come from incredibly hard water, so they like having the extra minerals in their environment.

    On the other hand, my water starts out being super dense with minerals (above 8.2 pH, and hard enough to leave lime scale with just one or two times of letting water evaporate in a container). If I added salt, I would be making it more difficult for the fishes' cells to keep enough water within, increasing the osmotic stress.

    Salt started out as a decent idea for treating a symptom for which aquarists didn't originally know the cause, but we now know better methods of solving the problem (i.e. adding crushed coral, or limestone, or some other calcium-bearing mineral).
     
  14. Wendy Lubianetsky Well Known Member Member

    I still use salt in my fishtanks. I do not use the tpg that is recommended, but I do use about a quarter of that. My personal experience is that I seem to have less trouble with fin infections in my larger fish. They regularily tear their fins scuffling around and at times there is a fungi or bacteria that starts. Now before you say it is my water quality, I do a 25% water change in my Oscar tank daily just to eleviate that problem (as we all no Oscar and his pals are dirty fish). I also believe that in the ground there is a content of salt which differs from place to place, but there is some salt in fresh water. I have not gone out and tested the ground water from wence each fish came from, but I think a pinch can only help. I know some of you think I am an idiot, but that is my reasoning.
     
  15. pirahnah3 Fishlore VIP Member

    sounds like there just using an old theory that has since been found to be proven wrong, glad to know there are people here who can help us all out.
     
  16. Jaysee Fishlore Legend Member

    ......the dark ages of fish keeping :)
     
  17. Butterfly Moderator Moderator Member

    Since most of our fish are aquarium/pond raised they are very flexible in what they will adapt to. Most if acclimated slowly will not show any reaction to a little salt in their water. I never saw any positive difference in keeping salt in the tanks so why have to keep up the practice. If your not careful and only top up evaporated water with plain water the salt will build up. All that's just too much trouble for me to keep up with if they don't need it.

    Then I started keeping Loaches and saw some very miserable and dying fish at the LFS who keeps salt in everything. that's where I got my Dojos. Dying in the store. when they were acclimated to freshwater at home they were wonderful and have continued to be so for about three years now.

    Salt is an irritant( it burns) and causes more slime coat to form. some say this is to protect the fish from parasites, then there are those who say the extra slime coat can protect parasites when covered with the extra slime coat.

    As you can see it's a totally personal decision to make. Just research your fishes needs before making a change in their environment.
    Carol

    And no I don't use salt in any of my tanks :)
     
  18. sirdarksol Fishlore Legend Member

    "Water changes are bad for fish. The older the water, the better."
     
  19. Butterfly Moderator Moderator Member

    Oh I remember that one!
     
  20. Wendy Lubianetsky Well Known Member Member

    Is it an old wise tale that there is a certain amount of salt in all naturally found fresh water which varies greatly??